>>>> The way the brain is wired has everything to do with the activities of the brain.
>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist desperate wankers ?
>> Please explain what that means.
>
> Go and fuck yourself and find a less pathetically hoary old line.
>
In debating technics, from college to parliamentary procedure, it is
common to call for a clear definition of a term. The objection is
sustainable.
>>>> I can easily show evidence that these are the three main
>>>> theories in brain science at this time and they are very
>>>> similar, and based upon "systems theory" or complexity theory.
>>> But you dont have a shred of evidence for what is being discussed,
>>> WHETHER NEW IDEAS ARE PRODUCED BY RANDOM EVENTS.
>> I have evidence that patterns need to be shuffled around the brain
>
> No you dont.
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At each level through the brain the visual information is packaged
into larger and larger units. First by computing in the retina, which
produces nerve impulses in the optic nerve each carrying a small
amount of information, as it were the letters of the visual code. The
cells of the thalamus (lateral geniculate body) send on information
about the distribution of small circular spots of light or dark,
rather like the dots on a photograph that has been screened for
reproduction in a newspaper. Then the primary visual cortex uses these
spots to compute edges, which could be compared with words. Further on
both in space through the cortex and in time, the brain interprets a
whole 'sentence'-say the sight of a cup or a face, or a letter, word,
or larger unit of information that is picked out in reading, perhaps a
whole line of print. The process does not continue uninterruptedly for
vision, or any other sense. The whole set of brain actions goes on in
discrete packages, each of perhaps one-fifth of a second. These may be
mainly visual, or mainly auditory, with perhaps mixtures of items from
visceral or emotional sources, or of memory records from previous
experience. Our own awareness of the stream of consciousness suggests
that there is some central processor receiving information at about
this rate, which is also the order of frequency of the
electroencephalogram.
So each part of the system progressively extracts more and more
abstract or general features of the visual information. It combines
them with information from other sense organs and of course with the
stored information and instructions already in it. Each part from time
to time gives outputs producing appropriate actions in the further
regions to which it is connected. We are only just beginning to find
the details of this web of backward and forward connections. There is
some evidence that each of the successive visual areas has its own
connections with the thalamus (Diamond 1978).
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Programs of the brain.
J. Z. Young 1978
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0198575459/
>> and that there is a probability of errors in the copying process.
>
> And that in spades.
>
Afraid not
>> There is evidence that a group of cells creating a
>> pattern clone that pattern in nearby groups of cells.
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> Irrelevant to whether there is any RANDOM COMPONENT with new ideas.
>
If this is how some parts of the process of idea formation works then
it is relevant.
>> Even copying files in a computer have some errors.
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> Wrong again.
>
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> ever to how NEW IDEAS are produced flushed where it belongs>
>
How so?
>>>>>> These are inductive theories and hypothesis not deductive necessity.
>>>>> Which is a fancy way of saying its just a CLAIM, and that hasnt been established.
>>>> By that reasoning anything in science is just a claim,
>>> Wrong. As always. We have established that the earth revolves around the sun,
>>> that the sun is a huge fusion reactor, that infection is due to viruses and bacteria etc.
>> Actually those are theories.
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> Nope, its been established that that is what happens.
>
>
> ever to how NEW IDEAS are produced flushed where it belongs>
This is your weak point, that is about "establishment" and how you
have such strong faith in your beliefs about it you don't see how even
gravity is a theory.
