On Dec 4, 10:49 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:04:02 -0800 (PST), Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Dec 4, 2:42 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>>> Another example of our medieval times :
>>> "Personification" is animism applied to humanoid shaped
>>> and human functioning structures.
>>> "Personification" is false folk theory including brain function
>>> and humanoid behavior.
>>> There are extent mysteries in the first person
>>> experiences, but "personhood" confuses the issue
>>> so as to make the issue "confusing". We need
>>> more considerate models on what it is and means
>>> to be
human.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pers...
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>>As you have said many times, "Qualia" is "an unfamiliar term for
>>something that could not be more familiar to each of us: the ways
>>things seem to us" Ways things seem is not an explaination of the way
>>things seem but it seems that personification is.
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> Until we can repetitively build machines that can do the "personhood"
> thing, we don't know squat, and it's still medieval times.
> "Personhood" includes provable subjective experiences such as
> sensor and self qualia.-
Solipsism is the philosophical idea that "My mind is the only thing
that I know exists". Solipsism is an epistemological or metaphysical
position that knowledge of anything outside the mind is unjustified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
If we still cannot determine whether other people exist or are
possibly a figment of the imagination, how is a soul machine going to
make any difference? If we make a fully functioning and experiencing
human, there are still these doubts. Plus some theories are more
beleivable than others and to make all theories seem the same is and
appeal to the vague.