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Author: tata Date: May 25, 2008 09:31
I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
to society. For example:
-- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
who actually take care of their animals.
-- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
abused, or tortured).
-- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot
be placed or have irreparable behavioral or physical health problems
(yes, killing an animal *is* providing a valuable service when the
alternative is a life full of pain and suffering).
On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended secondary
effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on the part of the
ignorant/uninformed and abusive. For example:
-- if someone buys a puppy on a whim, and then later decides to
neglect their responsibility as a caretaker, animal shelters provide
that person an out. The shelter effectively acts as as an enabler.
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Author: Daniel T.Daniel T. Date: May 25, 2008 11:01
> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
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> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
> to society...
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Author: WordsmithWordsmith Date: May 25, 2008 11:46
On May 25, 12:01 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:>> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>
>> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
>> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
>> to society. For example:
>
>> -- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
>> who actually take care of their animals.
>> -- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
>> attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
>> abused, or tortured).
>> -- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot
>> be placed or have irreparable behavioral or physical health problems
>> (yes, killing an animal *is* providing a valuable service when the
>> alternative is a life full of pain and suffering).
>
>> On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended secondary
>> effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on the part of the ...
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Author: tata Date: May 25, 2008 15:34
On May 25, 2:01 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:>> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>
>> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
>> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
>> to society. For example:
>
>> -- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
>> who actually take care of their animals.
>> -- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
>> attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
>> abused, or tortured).
>> -- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot
>> be placed or have irreparable behavioral or physical health problems
>> (yes, killing an animal *is* providing a valuable service when the
>> alternative is a life full of pain and suffering).
>
>> On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended secondary
>> effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on the part of the ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 25, 2008 15:58
On May 26, 2:31 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>
> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
> to society. For example:
>
> -- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
> who actually take care of their animals.
> -- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
> attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
> abused, or tortured).
> -- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot
> be placed or have irreparable behavioral or physical health problems
> (yes, killing an animal *is* providing a valuable service when the
> alternative is a life full of pain and suffering).
>
> On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended secondary
> effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on the part of the
> ignorant/uninformed and abusive. For example: ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 25, 2008 16:00
On May 26, 8:34 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> On May 25, 2:01 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
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>>> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
>>> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
>>> to society. For example:
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>>> -- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
>>> who actually take care of their animals.
>>> -- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
>>> attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
>>> abused, or tortured).
>>> -- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot ...
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Author: Daniel T.Daniel T. Date: May 25, 2008 16:25
> On May 25, 2:01 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:>>> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>>>
>>> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that
>>> takes in stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a
>>> valuable...
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Author: Mr.SmartypantsMr.Smartypants Date: May 25, 2008 16:50
On May 26, 9:25 am, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:>> On May 25, 2:01 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:>>>> I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>
>>>> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that
>>>> takes in stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a
>>>> valuable service to society.
>>>> [snip]
>>>> On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended
>>>> secondary effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on
>>>> the part of the ignorant/uninformed and abusive.
>>>> [snip]
>>>> Note: one could just as easily replace the word "animal" with
>>>> "human" and discuss the very same moral dilemma.
>
>>>> Thoughts?
>
>>> Of course I think animals would be better off if puppies weren't ...
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Author: leechapleechap Date: May 26, 2008 00:09
>I have mixed feelings about animal shelters.
>
> On the one hand, it would appear that any organization that takes in
> stray, unwanted, or dangerous animals is providing a valuable service
> to society. For example:
>
> -- they take unwanted animals and attempt to place them with families
> who actually take care of their animals.
> -- they reduce suffering and pain by providing shelter, food, and
> attention where they otherwise had none (or worse, were neglected,
> abused, or tortured).
> -- they provide the service of euthanizing animals that either cannot
> be placed or have irreparable behavioral or physical health problems
> (yes, killing an animal *is* providing a valuable service when the
> alternative is a life full of pain and suffering).
>
> On the other hand, shelters also (even if as an unintended secondary
> effect) enable the continued undesirable behaviour on the part of the
> ignorant/uninformed and abusive. For example: ...
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Author: leechapleechap Date: May 26, 2008 00:15
"Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote> it seems
> inappropriate to claim that people abandon pets *because* shelters exist.
It's not that people think, "Since there's a shelter I think I'll take
Skippy and put him there", its not THAT causal, but if they're unhappy with
an animal, a shelter offers a relatively guilt-free alternative. If shelters
weren't available many people would pursue other options such as addressing
the problems or learning to live with them rather than giving up on the pet.
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