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>>> Again, no one tried it yet.
>> Because it just doesn't work. If it did work, don't you think someone
>> would've tried it in the entire history of civilization?
>
>
> What a rabid nonsense. What history of civilization are you talking about?
> Rand was born in the beginning of the 20th century.
So, objectivism began with her?
>
> The problem is she misrepresented her own philosophy by her cracked
> heavy-Russian-accent voice and didactic, monotonous, almost authoritarian
> presentation, and by using words like Capitalism and Selfishness instead of
> Free Market and Pursuit of Personal Happiness -- PPH, since Americans love
> it this way so much better.
>
>
>
> Philosophy of an ugly-duckling genius, far ahead of its time, riding in a
> shabby vehicle instead of Rolls Royce.
>
> You, and People like you will never comprehend her philosophy and ethical
> system, just like Zeno, the Sophist or Socrates would not be able to
> comprehend the Quantum Theory; just like the Spanish Inquisition field court
> would not be able to comprehend the US Constitution and Human Rights.
>
> To understand her philosophy you need to separate themselves from the
> centuries of Christian Moral Dogma and cure yourself from the Tunnel Vision
> Syndrome -- not any time soon, though.
Sorry, but I'm not a Christian. I'm an atheist. See alt.atheism in
your newsgroup list?
>
> Until you realize that Society and Common Good is a figment of your
> imagination,
...Or in the United States Constitution...and in nature...
> albeit persistent one, you will suffer needlessly and endlessly
I do not believe I am suffering and I am not delusional.
> from these self-inflicted delusions and will think that this is natural,
> that this is supposed to be and reflects the human nature. You will go
> through endless barrage of ridiculous conflicts, that are in fact conflicts
> between Self and Common Good (Society) and think it's all inevitable.
What is good for society is good for the self. I am sorry that you wish
to disconnect yourself from society, exhibiting mild psychopathy.
> You
> will never succeed beyond what you have now, if you don't realize one day,
> after excruciatingly painful thinking process, that the only way for humans
> to exist in harmony and productive cooperation is to recognize absolute
> autonomy of each other, and start building their relationships from that
> point, never letting this point out of sight.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I am succeeding.
> This is the point when what i
> would call Natural Ethics can start to self-develop.
We ALREADY have "natural ethics".
>
>
>
> But maybe it's too late already? Contemporary man is helplessly stuck in the
> quagmire of unsystematized philosophical tradition waiting for the GOD to
> stretch a helping hand, but there's no GOD. And if there is one, he just
> waits patiently for us to save ourselves, taking little breaks from time to
> time to explode another supernova.
We must help each other. There is no God.
If you're in a sinking boat and you own two life preservers and someone
doesn't have one, do you give the spare to the person who doesn't have one?
I would, even if I hated the person.