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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 18:13
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 30, 2008 18:38
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
That is tantamount to deception,
pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
buy into the low level reported representation as reality.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 18:58
On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
>> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
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> That is tantamount to deception,
What else could the conciousness do? There's always going to be the
messengers.
> pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
> buy into the low level reported representation as reality.
The "higher" level brain centers turn the reports into deception.
The blame rests at the top of the chain of command. The "higher" level
brain centers need to remain in touch with the qualia's; the soldiers
of "reality" rather than to distort the signals into some crazy assed
deceptions after receiving the "honest" physical information.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 19:19
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 19:33
On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
>> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
>
> That is tantamount to deception,
> pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
> buy into the low level reported representation as reality.
Nothing will be a reality.
For now; something is a reality.
Hopefully; usually something is better than nothing.
Nothing is a zombie; unconcious.
Something is a devil; "free" will.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 30, 2008 20:01
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:00 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
>On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>>An explicit neural representation of red is created...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 30, 2008 20:12
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:19:49 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
I enjoyed that one.
Information moving through systems!
Still like the foot thing best. Good audience participation.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 20:18
On Aug 30, 11:01 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:33:00 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>>>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
>>>> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
>
>>> That is tantamount to deception,
>>> pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
>>> buy into the low level reported representation as reality.
>
>>Nothing will be a reality.
>>For now; something is a reality.
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>>Hopefully; usually something is better than nothing.
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>>Nothing is a zombie; unconcious.
>>Something is a devil; "free" will.
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> The paradigm of what it is and means to be human is under ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Aug 30, 2008 20:49
On Aug 30, 6:58 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:> On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
>>> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
>
>> That is tantamount to deception,
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> What else could the conciousness do? There's always going to be the
> messengers.
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>> pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
>> buy into the low level reported representation as reality.
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> The "higher" level brain centers turn the reports into deception.
>
> The blame rests at the top of the chain of command. The "higher" level
> brain centers need to remain in touch with the qualia's; the soldiers
> of "reality" rather than to distort the signals into some crazy assed ...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 30, 2008 21:12
On Aug 30, 11:49 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:> On Aug 30, 6:58 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 30, 9:38 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:>
>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>>>>An explicit neural representation of red is created that invariably
>>>> and automatically 'reports' this to higher brain centres
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>>> That is tantamount to deception,
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>> What else could the conciousness do? There's always going to be the
>> messengers.
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>>> pragmatic but deception because those higher brain centers
>>> buy into the low level reported representation as reality. ...
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