The human brain is the finest product of unmediated evolution. There
will be advances in the future - but these will certainly be mediated
by human agency.

Such a brain will eventually create an intelligent global society.
It's an evolutionary certainty - i.e, one that could easily be
overturned by catastrophe but which, barring that, will happen.

Why has this not happened to date? Consider the advances necessary to
create such a society - the knowledge required, the control required,
the communication necessary, the empowerment required, the errors
needing to be eroded, the imbalances needing to be corrected...If the
atom requires such prodigious underpinning with multiple particles
what underpinning must be required to construct such a vast society.

During the years of construction we required the illusion of
certainty. We do not entertain doubt. This legacy of error - the
beliefs etc - is part of the detritus we must shift before the clear
human society emerges. The subtlety of human error - all the forms and
arts we create to conceal our essential ignorance - will not dissipate
easily.

On Apr 28, 2:11 pm, Joseph Humming humanisation.org> wrote:

That's a very anthropocentric point of view. I am sure than an eagle
would tell us that his eyes are the finiest product of evolution, and
a cheetah would tell us that her speed was the finest.

Why do you think your guesses about the future path of human history
approach anything like "certainty"? Why do you use the word
"evolutionary" above, when human society is only an indirect result of
evolution?

- Bob T.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Joseph Humming
humanisation.org> wrote:

Based on what definition of "finest"?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Joseph Humming humanisation.org> wrote:

There are some strong evolutionary theories that surmise that at various
points human mediation did occur. Self or cultural breeding selections
may have occurred to promote and amplify various "human" traits.
These traits may have included such as intelligence, emotive capabilities,
vocal capabilities, size and skill as a warrior, etc.

On Apr 28, 10:25 pm, "Bob T." synapse-cs.com> wrote:

Really, I don't think an eagle or a cheetah will tell us any such
thing. I would love to hear it :-)

On Apr 28, 10:27 pm, raven1 nevermore.com> wrote:

I say elsewhere - to considerable ridicule - that we are the mind of
matter, hardly in a literal sense, of course, but more than
metaphorically. Matter has many configurations, is infinitely
variable. The multiple sensitivities at work in the human brain make
it home, I suggest, to that configuration of matter which allows the
possibility of knowledge of the entire course and nature of the
universe. .

On Apr 28, 10:27 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:

In article
<733f0e3b-bd3c-4b29-8d6e-d6516a0f9770@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Joseph Humming humanisation.org> wrote:

On Apr 28, 9:35 pm, chibiabos nospam.com> wrote:

Joseph Humming wrote:

Ow....mind...pretzeling....

A few questions:
Can you, by wiggling your abdomen, communicate with someone and
triangulate the position, in 3-dimensions, the location of something
precisely?