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Author: EdgarOwenEdgarOwen Date: Mar 19, 2008 13:32
I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
to take a look at my paper http://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf . All
serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
response to this post.
Edgar
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Author: someone2someone2 Date: Mar 19, 2008 13:39
On 19 Mar, 20:32, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
> response to this post.
>
> Edgar
Well I'd like to ask you some questions, firstly, you seem to be
suggesting that all that exists is the physical, is that the case?
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Author: EdgarOwenEdgarOwen Date: Mar 19, 2008 14:06
On Mar 19, 4:39 pm, someone2 btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 19 Mar, 20:32, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
>
>> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
>> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
>> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
>> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
>> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
>> response to this post.
>
>> Edgar
>
> Well I'd like to ask you some questions, firstly, you seem to be
> suggesting that all that exists is the physical, is that the case?
Hi, no I wouldn't put it that way, more that physical reality and
consciousness are aspects of the same fundamental reality. But you
really need to take a look at the paper to understand my thesis.
Edgar
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Author: EdEd Date: Mar 19, 2008 18:36
On Mar 19, 4:32 pm, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
> response to this post.
>
> Edgar
You say "This same 'experience' mechanism is common to every entity in
the universe,we just happen to 'experience' it in our own terms." Of
course!
The "hard problem" is why we experience it the way we do. As Chalmers
asks, why does the experiencing not "go on in the dark"? Why does it
feel like it does?
I understand your answer to be something to the effect that that's
just the way we're made. I think for Chalmers and others that's not
enough of an answer.
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Author: EdgarOwenEdgarOwen Date: Mar 20, 2008 05:28
On Mar 19, 9:36 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 4:32 pm, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
>
>> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
>> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
>> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
>> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
>> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
>> response to this post.
>
>> Edgar
>
> You say "This same 'experience' mechanism is common to every entity in
> the universe,we just happen to 'experience' it in our own terms." Of
> course!
>
> The "hard problem" is why we experience it the way we do. As Chalmers
> asks, why does the experiencing not "go on in the dark"? Why does it
> feel like it does?
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Author: zinniczinnic Date: Mar 20, 2008 08:36
On Mar 19, 3:32 pm, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
> response to this post.
>
> Edgar
Very interesting paper.
You state on page 16 "Every 'experience' is equally and absolutely
real in that it participates in the absolute reality of the present
moment".
How do you reconcile "Existence is 'experience'." with
Photons[ ]may not 'experience' the world (Note 4)?
Surely photons are real and exist in the "present moment [which] is
the only place in which anything actually exists and has
reality" (bottom page 3)?
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Author: EdgarOwenEdgarOwen Date: Mar 20, 2008 10:22
On Mar 20, 11:36 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 3:32 pm, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
>
>> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
>> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
>> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
>> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
>> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
>> response to this post.
>
>> Edgar
>
> Very interesting paper.
> You state on page 16 "Every 'experience' is equally and absolutely
> real in that it participates in the absolute reality of the present
> moment".
>
> How do you reconcile "Existence is 'experience'." with
> Photons[ ]may not 'experience' the world (Note 4)?
> Surely photons are real and exist in the "present moment [which] is ...
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Date: Mar 20, 2008 11:36
> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the
> structure of physical reality and the nature of the observer in
> modern science to take a look at my paper
> http://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf . All serious comments would
> be welcome either directly to my email or in response to this post.
In your essay you write:
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Author: EdgarOwenEdgarOwen Date: Mar 20, 2008 16:22
On Mar 20, 2:36 pm, "andy-k" wrote:
>> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
>> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the
>> structure of physical reality and the nature of the observer in
>> modern science to take a look at my paper
>> http://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All serious comments would
>> be welcome either directly to my email or in response to this post.
>
> In your essay you write:
>
>
>
>> "Consciousness, in the fundamental sense of the hard problem, is
>> something in which individual content may appear, rather than the
>> sequence of content itself."
>> [...]
>> "The diverse contents of consciousness are recognized as forms in the
>> medium of consciousness itself."
>> [...] ...
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Author: EdEd Date: Mar 20, 2008 21:13
On Mar 20, 8:28 am, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
> On Mar 19, 9:36 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> On Mar 19, 4:32 pm, EdgarO...@ att.net wrote:
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>>> I invite all those interested in a novel approach to the so called
>>> 'Hard Problem of Consciousness' and how it is related to the structure
>>> of physical reality and the nature of the observer in modern science
>>> to take a look at my paperhttp://EdgarLOwen.com/hardproblem.pdf. All
>>> serious comments would be welcome either directly to my email or in
>>> response to this post.
>
>>> Edgar
>
>> You say "This same 'experience' mechanism is common to every entity in
>> the universe,we just happen to 'experience' it in our own terms." Of ...
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