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Re: American Slice of Petroleum Pie In 15 Years         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: jtnospam
Date: Jun 28, 2008 09:55

On Jun 28, 7:39 am, "Bob Eld" yahoo.com> wrote:
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> news:d5394c2c-d42d-426f-bc62-e3cac0ed018a@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 10:12 pm, "(David P.)" mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> jtnos...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>> The prosperity since WWII isn't a birthright,
>>> it has specific causes & can be lost by making
>>> foolish public policy decisions. An aging
>>> population can't ride bicycles around, and bad
>>> weather limits young healthy people. We're now
>>> living thru the consequences of >30 years of
>>> bad public policy decisions. More bad decisions
>>> risk turning our economy & comfortable life
>>> into a train wreck. - Jitney
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>> Why should the young soldiers have to
>> fight & die, so we can be fat, dumb & happy
>> for some more years? 65-75 years of life
>> aren't enough? Gotta have 85-90?
>> What'll the world be like with the projected
>> 9 billion? Is it fair that future generations
>> have to live in more crowded conditions and
>> fight over food, fuel, clean air, clean water
>> and everything else?
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> France rejected the Jimmy Carter-Jane Fonda irrational resistance to
> nuclear power, 80%% of their electricity is nuclear generated, they
> don't have to send soldiers to the Middle East. That was an example of
> a good public policy decision on their part. Our ban on it was
> foolish, and we are paying a terrible price in blood and treasure. I
> agree that we are too fat, dumb, and happiness should not be tied to
> external prosperity but one's inner soul. But having had parents that
> grew up thru the Great Depression, I can tell you that this is one
> ordeal that would break the back and spirit of the Mr. Rogers
> Neighborhood educated generation in a way that would collapse our
> system of freedom, democracy, and probably lead to a terrible
> dictatorship. Do we want to follow the path of Latin America and
> Africa, failed states that swing between banana republics and military
> dictatorships? Our currency is already becoming like the peso, which
> is a big part of the current price of oil.
> Snip....
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> You talk funny for a republican. Why do you think our currency is becoming
> like the peso? And that, of course, is what leads to the high price of oil
> and other commodities.
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> Could it be that we haven't paid for waging war by giving unprecedented tax
> breaks at a time of war and national need, but making up the shortfall by
> excessive borrowing?
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> The very things you crab about are a direct result of the poor fiscal
> policies of the Bush administration.
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> It looks like you may get to experience what your parent grew up through,
> another DEPRESSION. Like last time it will be republican policies that cause
> it. Stay tuned.- Hide quoted text -
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I agree that the administration of Bush has been a disaster. He and
his Democrat-lite Republicans in Congress spent public money, for war
and non-war purposes, like drunken sailors. He mortgaged our country's
future to the Chinese. He left the Mexican border open to alien and
drug smuggling to satisfy big business desire for endless supplies of
cheap labor, and possibly set the stage for a European style socialist
North American Union. He betrayed his Oath of office to faithfully
execute the laws. I believe he was a wolf in sheep's clothing to the
faith community, and his family values campaign did not include
policies that would ensure that families could support themselves. I
am a reluctant Republican, but I am far from being a mindless
partisan. I am essentially a pro-labor conservative, which is about as
odd as a pro-life Democrat, but we do exist. The Democratic party of
Roosevelt and Truman is a dinosaur, and for that matter the two party
system has been so corrupted by big money that it no longer serves the
public good. I hate the Enron and Countrywide style corruption that
Bush tolerated, but Clinton harmed our oil markets far more during his
tenure by ignoring the antitrust laws and allowing the merger of the
then too few seven oil companies into three, re-assembling
Rockefeller's Standard Oil on the installment plan.
With all that being said, the enviromentalist view that man does not
have any place on this planet, that wants to depopulate rural America
to pre-Columbian times, is an absolute affront to the dignity of Man,
and the cause of extraordinary present and future suffering. After the
last century of atheist socialist ideology that had no respect for the
dignity of man, the left, discredited from the evils of Stalinism and
the fall of the Soviet Union has replaced it with an ideology that
does not distinguish between man and animal
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