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Author: TopazTopaz Date: Jul 8, 2008 02:45
Since hindsight is 20/20, we can look back now and say that,
unfortunately, the Founding Fathers were more worried about freedom
than about race. Their viewpoint is understandable; in their day,
pretty much everyone was White, and it was assumed that things would
stay that way. Blacks were a tiny and enslaved minority, and it was
assumed that things would stay that way. The media didn't have nearly
the power that it has today, and no Jews controlled the media that did
exist, and it was assumed that things would stay that way.
And so the Founding Fathers spent most of their time tackling the
problems that were the most pressing to them: a system of government
based on a checks-and-balances system, freedom of speech and of the
press, freedom of religion, the right to keep and bear arms, freedom
from unreasonable searches and seizures, and so on. Their attempt to
lay out a non-tyrannical system of government resulted in the United
States Constitution, and the Bill of Rights served to limit, as best
the Fathers could foresee, the potentially-intrusive power of that
government.
So, despite the understanding that the new nation was - to the core -
a White nation that was meant to remain White, the Founding Fathers
didn't explicitly make the United States a White racial state....
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 8, 2008 04:49
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:45:17 -0500, Topaz wrote:
> Their viewpoint is understandable; in their day, pretty much everyone
> was White, and it was assumed that things would stay that way. Blacks
> were a tiny and enslaved minority, and it was assumed that things would
> stay that way.
This is not correct. Research Jefferson's original draft of the DOI.
Research how the Quakers regarded slavery. Research how poor whites and
non landowners were treated. Research indentured servitude. Research the
concept of inalienable rights. Research the causes of the Civil War,
which, much to the horror of both the PC left and white right, WAS part
of the 'civil rights' movement.
Whatever the founders thought or did during their time, they built upon
and left ideals of inclusion (liberal) not exclusion.
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Jul 8, 2008 11:44
ZerkonX wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:45:17 -0500, Topaz wrote:
>
>> Their viewpoint is understandable; in their day, pretty much everyone
>> was White, and it was assumed that things would stay that way. Blacks
>> were a tiny and enslaved minority, and it was assumed that things would
>> stay that way.
>
> This is not correct. Research Jefferson's original draft of the DOI.
> Research how the Quakers regarded slavery. Research how poor whites and
> non landowners were treated. Research indentured servitude. Research the
> concept of inalienable rights. Research the causes of the Civil War,
> which, much to the horror of both the PC left and white right, WAS part
> of the 'civil rights' movement.
>
> Whatever the founders thought or did during their time, they built upon
> and left...
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Author: TopazTopaz Date: Jul 8, 2008 17:12
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:49:47 +0000, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
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>This is not correct. Research Jefferson's original draft of the DOI.
>Research how the Quakers regarded slavery. Research how poor whites and
>non landowners were treated. Research indentured servitude. Research the
>concept of inalienable rights. Research the causes of the Civil War,
>which, much to the horror of both the PC left and white right, WAS part
>of the 'civil rights' movement.
>
>Whatever the founders thought or did during their time, they built upon
>and left ideals of inclusion (liberal) not exclusion.
Jefferson's lifelong advocacy of racial separatism is
well-documented and undeniable. He desired that all Blacks be
returned to Africa or, in the interest of practicality, shipped to
the island of Santo Domingo in the Caribbean. Any interpretation of
Jefferson's words which is in direct contradiction to his forcefully
and repeatedly expressed beliefs on race is obviously an incorrect
interpretation.
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 8, 2008 22:31
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.07.08.11.49.57@X.net...
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:45:17 -0500, Topaz wrote:
>
>> Their viewpoint is understandable; in their day, pretty much everyone
>> was White, and it was assumed that things would stay that way. Blacks
>> were a tiny and enslaved minority, and it was assumed that things would
>> stay that way.
>
> This is not correct. Research Jefferson's original draft of the DOI.
> Research how the Quakers regarded slavery. Research how poor whites and
> non landowners were treated. Research indentured servitude. Research the
> concept of inalienable rights. Research the causes of the Civil War,
> which, much to the horror of both the PC left and white right, WAS part
> of the 'civil rights' movement.
>
> Whatever the founders thought...
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