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Author: Kadaitcha ManKadaitcha Man Date: Apr 12, 2008 23:55
Groups header changed and extended; appropriately, I assume.
>>Anyway, back on topic... I've decided to try and get straight to one of
>>the
>>points that underpins what I'm trying to convey rather than take the
>>indirect route that's been leading us both astray. Let me ask you a
>>question.
>>
>>If I were to say that the self, the "thing" inside you that says of itself
>>"I am me", is, in essence, composed entirely of unprovable truths, what
>>would you have to say about that?
>
> I define the self differently.
Ok, define self as you understand it, even in cold, clinical terms, if you
like :)
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Author: KaliKali Date: Apr 13, 2008 19:59
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>Groups header changed and extended; appropriately, I assume.
>
>>>Anyway, back on topic... I've decided to try and get straight to one of
>>>the
>>>points that underpins what I'm trying to convey rather than take the
>>>indirect route that's been leading us both astray. Let me ask you a
>>>question.
>>>
>>>If I were to say that the self, the "thing" inside you that says of itself
>>>"I am me", is, in essence, composed entirely of unprovable truths, what
>>>would you have to say about that?
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Author: Kadaitcha ManKadaitcha Man Date: Apr 14, 2008 03:44
>>Ok, define self as you understand it, even in cold, clinical terms, if you
>>like :)
> Maybe hot, juicy, and pulsing this time.
> Have you ever witnessed an active synapse? From a certain
> distance, it looks like the two (or more!) neurons are sucking
> and fucking each other.
lol - actually, yes. When I was back in Oz last, there was a National
Geographic special on Foxtel about the mind and brain. I saw something
exactly like that but never made the erotic connection that you just did.
Is that why you look at people differently now? It sort of brings a whole
new realism to the word "fuckhead".
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 14, 2008 17:04
re: so be it
In my tedious subjectivist perception:
Agnosticism is defensible, logical, non-dogmatic, non-demagogic & non-
cowardly thinking
However, If it's ever to my satisfaction "proven" wrong, de-bunked,
or mis-perceived, then I'd dump it.
Einstein is apparently somewhat of a "deist," b-t-w.
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Author: Kadaitcha ManKadaitcha Man Date: Apr 14, 2008 19:24
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Well, dear, we were on the right track to a common, better understanding of
the self after all. You and I have unequivocal agreement on the self's
relationship to the brain :)
Enjoy, and really, many, many thanks for sticking with this. It's been
a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Apr 14, 2008 21:21
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:04:56 -0700 (PDT), Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
>re: so be it
>
>
>In my tedious subjectivist perception:
>
>Agnosticism is defensible, logical, non-dogmatic, non-demagogic & non-
>cowardly thinking
>
>However, If it's ever to my satisfaction "proven" wrong, de-bunked,
>or mis-perceived, then I'd dump it.
>
>Einstein is apparently somewhat of a "deist," b-t-w.
Why do you ignore the human brain need for meaning giving
stories and stories as beliefs? Logicalness is not at all a high
criteria. How things are, do not at all take your "satisfaction"
into account. Apparently you have an agenda to grind.
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Author: KaliKali Date: Apr 15, 2008 10:39
>"Kali" wrote in message
>news:fu0ddu$pf3$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
>Well, dear, we were on the right track to a common, better understanding of
>the self after all. You and I have unequivocal agreement on the self's
>relationship to the brain :)
>
>Enjoy, and really, many, many thanks for sticking with this. It's been
>a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
It would have been fun to have you around back in the old days
of spp, when real psychologists and grad students actually
engaged in cool discussions like this one.
>
>
>>>> In...
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Author: Kadaitcha ManKadaitcha Man Date: Apr 15, 2008 15:37
>>Well, dear, we were on the right track to a common, better understanding
>>of the self after all. You and I have unequivocal agreement on the
>>self's relationship to the brain :)
>>
>>Enjoy, and really, many, many thanks for sticking with this. It's been
>>a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
>
> It would have been fun to have you around back in the old days
> of spp, when real psychologists and grad students actually
> engaged in cool discussions like this one.
Now that _is_ a compliment.
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Author: KaliKali Date: Apr 16, 2008 10:49
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>
>>>Well, dear, we were on the right track to a common, better understanding
>>>of the self after all. You and I have unequivocal agreement on the
>>>self's relationship to the brain :)
>>>
>>>Enjoy, and really, many, many thanks for sticking with this. It's been
>>>a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
>>
>> It would have been fun to have you around back in the old days
>> of spp, when real psychologists and grad students actually ...
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 16, 2008 11:35
On Apr 15, 12:21 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:04:56 -0700 (PDT), Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:>>re: so be it
>
>>In my tedious subjectivist perception:
>
>>Agnosticism is defensible, logical, non-dogmatic, non-demagogic & non-
>>cowardly thinking
>
>>However, If it's ever to my satisfaction "proven" wrong, de-bunked,
>>or mis-perceived, then I'd dump it.
>
>>Einstein is apparently somewhat of a "deist," b-t-w.
>
> Why do you ignore the human brain need for meaning giving
> stories and stories as beliefs? Logicalness is not at all a high
> criteria. How things are, do not at all take your "satisfaction"
> into account. Apparently you have an agenda to grind.
re: my agenda is need for a story
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