"ZerkonX"
X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.07.28.13.51.48@X.net...> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:55:30 -0700, 5,999,999 wrote:
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>> Africa for the Africans... etc
>
> By this reasoning, the United States, as one example, should not contain
> whites who should leave and return to where ever they came from and that
> the country be returned to those native to the land. Australia, DANG!
> India? Double DANG! CHINA?? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> There is nothing sound here, practically, morally, logically or even
> economical.
>
> For instance, the US as an example again... 'black people' are as much
> part of that nations fiber as any other race and given the length of
> their ancestral connection, even more so than the vast majority of whites.
>
> Which brings up the (de)illusion of white, or black, or whatever..
> homogeny. the idea of a 'racial one-ness' is afforded here only by the
> sense of being victimized. Once victimization is removed this cozy state
> of (false) uniformity falls apart only to be replaced by some other
> criteria.
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the "Irish problem" or the "Catholic
> problem" or the "Atheist problem" or "the liberal problem" or "the Hick
> problem"... "whatthefuckever problem".
>
> The REAL problem is a human one and not totally defined or confined by
> race or creed but by Differences which can be just as volatile down to
> the level of family [insert European History here].
>
> Injustice is not confined to race. It will a most unsettling time indeed
> when some people 'wake up' and realize that, like it or not, we ARE in
> this together and only through a human union, a union of differences,
> that the injustices that most of us face can be truly addressed.
>
> To say the race issue is dead is obviously, by this thread, not true. To
> say it should be is an imposition. However, the weight of historical
> trend in how humans have been changing since their beginning, dooms this
> as short sighted ignorance or, worse, far sighted stupidity.
>
I might agree with most of what Zerkonx wrote when applied to all
creeds...except the black race. I believe that race is so different, so
compulsively insiduous in influence, that they singly bring down the rest.
If the west ever falls for a declining moral center, a deteriating civility,
and a runaway sexuality that undermines family...I'm convinced there will be
two fundamental reasons. First...black integration. Second...the
empowerment of women under feminism. Both movements have come together in
a contiguous way to become a power of change that has been overwhelming,
while individually, either movement would have been managable and marginal
otherwise. The sexual laision between white women and black males all but
destroyed any defensive resistance to the black influence through white male
intercedence. It's complex of course...involving science and changing self
perceptions throughout; but the damning elements have been these two.
I suppose that's if one is old school establishment. If one is part of the
movement to cause change in the directions suggested, I suppose all is a
matter of celebration and good riddance to the old. Obama marks the last
nail in the white coffin, so we'll see where this goes. Just off the cuff
and first at bat, I'd say look for reparations being pushed through and then
'hate speech' laws that would make criminal my very post here just
discussing. What is, IS...
