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Affluence re-considered         


Author: ta
Date: Jul 21, 2008 15:06

In modern, Western civilization, "affluence" is typically defined by
one's accumulation of possessions, including land, car, houses,
businesses, money, and other material items. However, given that these
pursuits are all temporal, and given the sacrifices exchanged for
modern life, I don't think it's a very meaningful definition of
"affluence".

Hunter-gather societies typically had more leisure time, worked fewer
hours, ate healthy food, and probably had a great deal more freedom
than any industrialized society. These are the major components of a
high quality of life -- freedom, physical and economic security, clean
air, high quality food, clean water, and, well, job security.

Surely there are downsides as well (poor medical care, for one). But
by and large we've been hoodwinked into thinking that
industrialization = affluence . . . that's simply not the case, if we
consider the components that make up a high quality of life.
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: tg
Date: Jul 21, 2008 17:29

On Jul 21, 6:06 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
> In modern, Western civilization, "affluence" is typically defined by
> one's accumulation of possessions, including land, car, houses,
> businesses, money, and other material items. However, given that these
> pursuits are all temporal, and given the sacrifices exchanged for
> modern life, I don't think it's a very meaningful definition of
> "affluence".
>
> Hunter-gather societies typically had more leisure time, worked fewer
> hours, ate healthy food, and probably had a great deal more freedom
> than any industrialized society. These are the major components of a
> high quality of life -- freedom, physical and economic security, clean
> air, high quality food, clean water, and, well, job security.
>
> Surely there are downsides as well ...
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Jul 21, 2008 18:01

On Jul 21, 5:29 pm, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 6:06 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>> In modern, Western civilization, "affluence" is typically defined by
>> one's accumulation of possessions, including land, car, houses,
>> businesses, money, and other material items. However, given that these
>> pursuits are all temporal, and given the sacrifices exchanged for
>> modern life, I don't think it's a very meaningful definition of
>> "affluence".
>
>> Hunter-gather societies typically had more leisure time, worked fewer
>> hours, ate healthy food, and probably had a great deal more freedom
>> than any industrialized society. These are the major components of a
>> high quality of life -- freedom, physical and economic security, clean
>> air, high quality food, clean water, and, well, job security.
>
>> Surely there are downsides as well (poor medical care, for one). But
>> by and large we've been hoodwinked into thinking that ...
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jul 21, 2008 18:12

On Jul 22, 8:06 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
> In modern, Western civilization, "affluence" is typically defined by
> one's accumulation of possessions, including land, car, houses,
> businesses, money, and other material items. However, given that these
> pursuits are all temporal, and given the sacrifices exchanged for
> modern life, I don't think it's a very meaningful definition of
> "affluence".
>
> Hunter-gather societies typically had more leisure time, worked fewer
> hours, ate healthy food, and probably had a great deal more freedom
> than any industrialized society. These are the major components of a
> high quality of life -- freedom, physical and economic security, clean
> air, high quality food, clean water, and, well, job security.
>
> Surely there are downsides as well ...
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: kevirwin
Date: Jul 21, 2008 21:50

On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
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> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
> BOfL- -

Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
about....

Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter
and smashed it with a mallet (I like to make points with visual
symbols along with figurative ones).

tryin' to get "back in the groove",
K e v
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jul 21, 2008 22:50

On Jul 22, 2:50 pm, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
>> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
>> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
>> BOfL- -
>
> Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
> about....
>
> Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter
> and smashed it with a mallet (I like to make points with visual
> symbols along with figurative ones).
>
> tryin' to get "back in the groove",
> K e v ...
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Author: kevirwin
Date: Jul 21, 2008 23:41

On Jul 22, 1:50 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2:50 pm, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
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>> On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
>>> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
>>> BOfL- -
>
>> Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
>> about....
>
>> Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter ...
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: kevirwin
Date: Jul 21, 2008 23:43

On Jul 22, 1:50 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2:50 pm, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
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>> On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
>>> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
>>> BOfL- -
>
>> Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
>> about....
>
>> Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter ...
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Re: Affluence re-considered         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jul 21, 2008 23:46

On Jul 22, 12:50 am, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
>> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
>> BOfL- -
>
> Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
> about....
>
> Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter
> and smashed it with a mallet (I like to make points with visual
> symbols along with figurative ones).
>
> tryin' to get "back in the groove",
> K e v ...
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Author: kevirwin
Date: Jul 22, 2008 00:01

On Jul 22, 2:46 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 12:50 am, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
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>
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>> On Jul 21, 9:12 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Just think how turtoni would change his view if he actually bought a
>>> rolex, instead of just fantasizing :-).
>
>>> BOfL- -
>
>> Sometime you'll have to tell me what this "Rolex thing" is all
>> about....
>
>> Shortly after I retired in December 06, I put my watch on a counter
>> and smashed it with a mallet (I like to make points with visual ...
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