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A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: janpajak
Date: Apr 9, 2008 19:14

Foundations of the present official (orthodox) human science are
entirely based on proofs for the non-existence of various phenomena,
objects, and physical quantities. In fact, scientists compete with
each other in indicating items of evidence which suggest that
something supposedly does NOT exist in the universe. Let us provide
here several illustrative examples. In the official human science
theories of Albert Einstein are indicated as the proof for the non-
existence of speeds in excess of the speed of light. Findings of Lord
Kelvin are considered to be a proof that the temperature below
"absolute zero" does NOT exist. The experiment of Michelson-Morley of
1887 is acknowledged as the proof that the substance in past called
the "ether" (now it is called the "counter-matter") does NOT exist.
Laws of thermodynamics supposedly prove that principles and phenomena
on the basis of which we could build so-called "perpetual motion"
devices, are also non-existent. The so-called "red shift" in light
from stars is supposedly a proof that at some stage the entire
universe was non-existent. The definition and descriptions of the idea
of "time" used by present official science are supposedly a proof that
the possibility to shift time back does NOT exist as well. Etc., etc.
These scientific claims about the non-existence of various fundamental ...
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: raven1
Date: Apr 9, 2008 20:47

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT), janpajak@gmail.com wrote:

I've fixed your post so that it makes more sense. No charge this time.

Seriously, you do realize that you're barking mad, right?
>Sbhaqngvbaf bs gur cerfrag bssvpvny (begubqbk) uhzna fpvrapr ner
>ragveryl onfrq ba cebbsf sbe gur aba-rkvfgrapr bs inevbhf curabzran,
>bowrpgf, naq culfvpny dhnagvgvrf. Va snpg, fpvragvfgf pbzcrgr jvgu...
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: Richo
Date: Apr 9, 2008 20:57

On Apr 10, 12:14 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Foundations of the present official (orthodox) human science are
> entirely based on proofs for the non-existence of various phenomena,
> objects, and physical quantities.

No, actually.
First comes observation of some phenomenon - some regularity in
nature.The proposal of hypothesis and the testing of those hypothesis
comes next.
If the hypothesis is falsified this can constitute the proof of non
existence of the proposed mechanism or process of the hypothesis - but
the observational facts don't "go away".
> In fact, scientists compete with
> each other in indicating items of evidence which suggest that
> something supposedly does NOT exist in the universe.

They compete with each other to show that a proposed mechanism fails -
this sometimes results in the disproof of the existence of some
substance (eg phlostigen aether) - but not usually.
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: Richo
Date: Apr 9, 2008 21:06

On Apr 10, 1:47 pm, raven1 nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT), janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I've fixed your post so that it makes more sense.

It *is* much prettier now.
> No charge this time.
>
> Seriously, you do realize that you're barking mad, right?
>

The thing about being barking mad is it makes it rather difficult for
the afflicted to judge.
Megalomania and delusions of adequacy are common in the Truly Barking
Insane.
Tis a phenomenon I have observed.
8-)

Cheers, Mark.
--------------------------------------------
Mark Richardson. m.richardson61 AT gmail.com
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 9, 2008 21:52

On Apr 9, 8:57 pm, Richo gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 12:14 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Foundations of the present official (orthodox) human science are
>> entirely based on proofs for the non-existence of various phenomena,
>> objects, and physical quantities.
>
> No, actually.
> First comes observation of some phenomenon - some regularity in
> nature.The proposal of hypothesis and the testing of those hypothesis
> comes next.
> If the hypothesis is falsified this can constitute the proof of non
> existence of the proposed mechanism or process of the hypothesis - but
> the observational facts don't "go away".
>

Doesn't science still function pretty much as Mill's methods have and
do? If so you are correct but there are some more options available;

Mill's Methods
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: SeppoP
Date: Apr 9, 2008 21:52

raven1 wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT), janpajak@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I've fixed your post so that it makes more sense. No charge this time.
>
> Seriously, you do realize that you're barking mad, right?
>


>> (3) Gur qvfphffvba bs gur rivqrapr sbe aba-rkvfgrapr bs Tbq (va gur
>> Cbyvfu ynathntr) vf pneevrq bhg ng gur vagrearg nqqerffrf:
>> uggc://tebhcf.tbbtyr.pbz/tebhc/cy.fpv.svmlxn/oebjfr_guernq/guernq/23o46n156r7rs6n8#

I think your translation still left one or two points to be clarified
further. Hopefully my translation will help:

Croak croak croak croak croak (croak) croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak-croak croak croak croak,
croak, croak croak croak. Croak croak, croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak...
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Author: Andrew W
Date: Apr 9, 2008 22:21

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5939bce6-77d5-45ab-bdcc-1fa80ba9291e@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Foundations of the present official (orthodox) human science are
> entirely based on proofs for the non-existence of various phenomena,
> objects, and physical quantities. In fact, scientists compete with
> each other in indicating items of evidence which suggest that
> something supposedly does NOT exist in the universe. Let us provide
> here several illustrative examples. In the official human science
> theories of Albert Einstein are indicated as the proof for the non-
> existence of speeds in excess of the speed of light. Findings of Lord
> Kelvin are considered to be a proof that the temperature below
> "absolute zero" does NOT exist. The experiment of Michelson-Morley of
> 1887 is acknowledged as the proof that the substance in past called
> the "ether" (now it is called the "counter-matter") does NOT exist.
> Laws of thermodynamics supposedly prove that principles and phenomena
> on the basis of which we could build so-called "perpetual motion"
> devices, are also non-existent. The so-called "red shift" in light
> from stars is supposedly a proof that at some stage the entire
> universe was non-existent. The definition and descriptions of the idea
> of "time" used by present official science are supposedly a proof that ...
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
Date: Apr 9, 2008 22:38

You could've done that much shorter, like "all scientists are eeeevil
atheists!!!1!!!".

Just as idiotic and can be read in one second. Well, at least by a person
with some decent education... don't know about you.

--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...

My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Apr 10, 2008 01:53

Certainly there is a wealth of scientific evidence to demonstrate different
levels of reality, previously undiscovered.

To connect such findings to a human concept of God has no validity, any more
than when the ancients used to worship the sun because of its life giving
energy.

BOfL
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Re: A wealth of scientific evidence proves the existence of God, but not even a shred of evidence suggests the non-existence of God (JP)         


Author: Don Stockbauer
Date: Apr 10, 2008 02:05

On Apr 9, 11:52 pm, SeppoP xyahoox.com> wrote:
> raven1 wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT), janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've fixed your post so that it makes more sense. No charge this time.
>
>> Seriously, you do realize that you're barking mad, right?
>
>
>
>>> (3) Gur qvfphffvba bs gur rivqrapr sbe aba-rkvfgrapr bs Tbq (va gur
>>> Cbyvfu ynathntr) vf pneevrq bhg ng gur vagrearg nqqerffrf:
>>> uggc://tebhcf.tbbtyr.pbz/tebhc/cy.fpv.svmlxn/oebjfr_guernq/guernq/23o46n156r7rs6n8#
>
> I think your translation still left one or two points to be clarified
> further. Hopefully my translation will help:
>
> Croak croak croak croak croak (croak) croak croak croak
> croak croak croak croak croak croak croak-croak croak croak croak,
> croak, croak croak croak. Croak croak, croak croak croak ...
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