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Re: A time for love - a time for hate         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Jan 29, 2008 00:53

On Jan 29, 5:20 pm, "THE BORG" outthere.com> wrote:
> Many humans believe in love - love - love.  That you should love and forgive
> everyone and that love is correct.
> But is it?
> If someone does wrong or bad - is it a good thing to love them?
> If you hate them - then would they not become aware that they have done wrong
> or bad - and thus correct their behaviour and become better people and
> improve?
> Thus by hating this person - it is for their benefit.
> And surely a more natural occurrence in some cases to hate rather than love.
> It must be not only hard - but unnatural and false to "love" the person who
> has maybe been violent toward you and blinded you - or maybe crippled one of
> your children.
> But if you forgive and love this person - how will they learn or improve...
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Re: A time for love - a time for hate         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jan 29, 2008 10:16

On Jan 29, 6:53 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 5:20 pm, "THE BORG" outthere.com> wrote:
>
>> Many humans believe in love - love - love.  That you should love and forgive
>> everyone and that love is correct.
>> But is it?
>> If someone does wrong or bad - is it a good thing to love them?
>> If you hate them - then would they not become aware that they have done wrong
>> or bad - and thus correct their behaviour and become better people and
>> improve?
>> Thus by hating this person - it is for their benefit.
>> And surely a more natural occurrence in some cases to hate rather than love.
>> It must be not only hard - but unnatural and false to "love" the person who
>> has maybe been violent toward you and blinded you - or maybe crippled one of
>> your children.
>> But if you forgive and love this person - how will they learn or improve on a
>> karma/reincarnation/ long term basis?
>> THE BORG
>
> Exactly BORG, well said. ...
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Re: A time for love - a time for hate         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Jan 29, 2008 20:33

On Jan 30, 3:16 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The 'mystic' spotter strikes again.
>
> This has nothing whatever to do with actions ,
> but of understanding.

Which is said as if understandings happen without anything existing
outside of the understanding process to understand, and said as if
actions dont happen as a result of those understandings.
> Difficult when one doesnt acknowlege that there is such undertstanding
> to be realized.

Even worse when someone pretends they understand some thing which
exists no-where else but inside the mind, e.g. god and Kant's dopey
version of space and time.
> But as Borg rightly pointed out, that what karma and reincarnation is
> all about.,

Borg was just saying that in realty all actions have consequences.
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Re: A time for love - a time for hate         


Author: THE BORG
Date: Feb 1, 2008 10:24

"Michael Gordge" xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:e994f538-c007-44b4-a105-b947fa53d62a@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31, 5:37 am, "THE BORG" outthere.com> wrote:
> I seem to have nothing but so called "mystical"
> experiences these days.

And the important thing there is you obviously recognize them as being
mystical, pity the Kantain / religionists aren't as honest, which
renders them mystics, ignorant of their own mystical epistemology.

MG

Yes but I CAN differentiate between the mystical and the so called "real"
world.
I find the mystical more MEANINGFUL - the visions and experiences I have on
the mysical side I know are the long term ones whereas the "real" world is
the few years on Earth.
I think it is good to be aware of both. And indeed a certain amount of
religion - not just Christian either.
Are you saying that those who you call Kantian call mystical experiences
"real" over and above what you or in general is called the "real" world?
THE BORG
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