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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Date: Sep 15, 2008 00:26

I also heard that he had his first physical encounter with the opposite sex
when he was two and a half years old. (For the record, I'm two and a half
decades old, and I haven't even been on a date yet. You can imagine the
awful nausea I've had to live in.)

I wrote:
>
> Here is a quote:
>
> "...Only the martyr takes another's
> pain upon himself; to be sure, because the consciousness of this
> affords him pleasure..."

I dispute this sentence. Its truth, if it is even true at all, depends on
the meaning of "taking another's pain upon oneself."

If I seek to relieve another's pain, doesn't that mean my consciousness *per
se* of his or her pain causes me *pain*, not pleasure? And if I relieve his
or her pain, sure, it affords me pleasure, but this is not quite the same as
stating that my mere *consciousness* of it does.
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Nic
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:50

On 15 Sep, 08:26, "Scott H" wrote:
> I also heard that he had his first physical encounter with the opposite sex
> when he was two and a half years old. (For the record, I'm two and a half
> decades old, and I haven't even been on a date yet. You can imagine the
> awful nausea I've had to live in.)
>
why the hell arn't you compelled to read a steady romantic
novel instead then, are you after someone who wants to complete
a fantasy? I'm sure theres plenty a groups wanting to help there
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Nic
Date: Sep 15, 2008 14:45

come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Don Stockbauer
Date: Sep 15, 2008 15:56

On Sep 15, 4:45 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
> to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
> camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?

Nope.
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Sep 15, 2008 17:14

On Sep 15, 5:26 pm, "Scott H" wrote:
> I also heard that he had his first physical encounter with the opposite sex
> when he was two and a half years old. (For the record, I'm two and a half
> decades old, and I haven't even been on a date yet. You can imagine the
> awful nausea I've had to live in.)
>
> I wrote:
>
>> Here is a quote:
>
>> "...Only the martyr takes another's
>> pain upon himself; to be sure, because the consciousness of this
>> affords him pleasure..."
>
> I dispute this sentence. Its truth, if it is even true at all, depends on
> the meaning of "taking another's pain upon oneself."
>
> If I seek to relieve another's pain, doesn't that mean my consciousness *per
> se* of his or her pain causes me *pain*, not pleasure? And if I relieve his
> or her pain, sure, it affords me pleasure, but this is not quite the same as ...
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Don Stockbauer
Date: Sep 16, 2008 04:51

On Sep 15, 5:56 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 4:45 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
>> to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
>> camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?
>
> Nope.

Nun atoll.
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Nic
Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:12

On 16 Sep, 12:51, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 5:56 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 15, 4:45 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
>>> to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
>>> camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?
>
>> Nope.
>
> Nun atoll.

hear ye! I have a couple of sneeking creepers lurking about....
and I'm going off line a while try to fix it, having the biggest stick
I can find right now its about the best to do until I spread the word,
p.s and my gumboots got all muddied up :(
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Date: Sep 16, 2008 15:02

Nic wrote:
> why the hell arn't you compelled to read a steady romantic
> novel instead then ...?

How do you know I'm not?
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Don Stockbauer
Date: Sep 16, 2008 15:09

On Sep 16, 12:12 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 16 Sep, 12:51, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 15, 5:56 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Sep 15, 4:45 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
>>>> to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
>>>> camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?
>
>>> Nope.
>
>> Nun atoll.
>
> hear ye! I have a couple of sneeking creepers lurking about....
> and I'm going off line a while try to fix it, having the biggest stick
> I can find right now its about the best to do until I spread the word,
>  p.s and my gumboots got all muddied up :(
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Re: A quote from _Sadism and Masochism_ by Wilhelm Stekel         


Author: Nic
Date: Sep 17, 2008 02:37

On 16 Sep, 23:09, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 16, 12:12 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 16 Sep, 12:51, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Sep 15, 5:56 pm, Don Stockbauer hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Sep 15, 4:45 pm, Nic hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> come on Don, the same sort of hurt happened
>>>>> to you anytime? ambushed on a holiday or at a
>>>>> camp, coerced by ringleaders and assulted?
>
>>>> Nope.
>
>>> Nun atoll. ...
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