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Date: Jul 10, 2007 08:02
I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
significantly different than it has been from people in
the others. Here's the post:
For years people cloaked beneath the gross misnomer
of "animal rights advocates/activists" have been insisting
that we give no consideration at all to the lives of animals
raised for food when those lives are of positive value to
the animals. They insist we do not consider what the animals
gain from being farmed, regardless of the quality of their lives.
To "aras" it is all pure exploitation *because* the animals are
killed deliberately by humans. There are some even more
extreme beliefs than that, going so far as to insist we never
give the lives of any creatures any consideration at all.
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Author: DutchDutch Date: Jul 10, 2007 10:22
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> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
> significantly different than it has been from people in
> the others.
People in Alaska are no different than anyone else, they'll read your post
for about 15 seconds, tops, then correctly dismiss you as a complete nitwit.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 10, 2007 10:39
On Jul 10, 8:02 am, dh@. wrote:
> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
> significantly different than it has been from people in
> the others. Here's the post:
>
> For years people cloaked beneath the gross misnomer
> of "animal rights advocates/activists" have been insisting
> that we give no consideration at all to the lives of animals
> raised for food when those lives are of positive value to
> the animals. They insist we do not consider what the animals
> gain from being farmed, regardless of the quality of their lives.
> To "aras" it is all pure exploitation *because* the animals are
> killed deliberately by humans. There are some even more
> extreme beliefs than that, going so far as to insist we never
> give the lives of any creatures any consideration at all.
>
> Which lives, if any, should we take into consideration when
> we think about human infuence on animals? Should we
> restrict some of them from our thinking, but allow ourselves ...
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Author: YouYou Date: Jul 10, 2007 11:52
In article , "Dutch" home.com>
wrote:
> wrote
>> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
>> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
>> significantly different than it has been from people in
>> the others.
>
> People in Alaska are no different than anyone else, they'll read your post
> for about 15 seconds, tops, then correctly dismiss you as a complete nitwit.
>
Didn't take 15 Seconds, only about 3...... Must be a fast reader....
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Date: Jul 10, 2007 13:51
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:39:09 -0700, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 10, 8:02 am, dh@. wrote:
>> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
>> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
>> significantly different than it has been from people...
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Date: Jul 10, 2007 22:23
On Jul 10, 11:02 am, dh@. wrote:
> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
> significantly different than it has been from people in
> the others. Here's the post:
>
> For years people cloaked beneath the gross misnomer
> of "animal rights advocates/activists" have been insisting
> that we give no consideration at all to the lives of animals
> raised for food when those lives are of positive value to
> the animals. They insist we do not consider what the animals
> gain from being farmed, regardless of the quality of their lives.
> To "aras" it is all pure exploitation *because* the animals are
> killed deliberately by humans. There are some even more
> extreme beliefs than that, going so far as to insist we never
> give the lives of any creatures any consideration at all.
>
> Which lives, if any, should we take into consideration when
> we think about human infuence on animals? Should we
> restrict some of them from our thinking, but allow ourselves ...
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Date: Jul 15, 2007 12:19
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:23:46 -0700, a_f_r_i_e_n_d@ hotmail.com wrote:
>On Jul 10, 11:02 am, dh@. wrote:
>> I've posted this to several groups already, and want to
>> see if the reaction from people in the Alaska group is
>> significantly different than it has been from people...
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Jul 15, 2007 14:20
On Jul 15, 3:19 pm, dh@. wrote:
> I choose to consider the lives of animals raised for food
> as well as their deaths.
"In the Footsteps of Alexander" with Michael Woods on PBS, he found
the Lakash, up in the Pakistan mtns next to Tibet, who claimed they
were descendants of wounded solders left there by Alexander. This is
believeable because they said it in ancient Greek.
And they were still *Dionysian*. I've often wondered why modern
"neopagans" have not gone there to meet the real McCoy. Anyway, while
there, the sacrificed a goat. Now, we all know the way the Bible says
to do it, build an altar, pile on the firewood, and burn the whole
animal up to the greater honor of Jehovah, or whatever his name is.
But here, the altar to Dionysus is right by the pasture gate. Grab
goat, slit throat, throw a handful of blood on the altar, then go have
a barbi cause Dionysus loves a good party. Now, that's my kind of
God.
Note- they didnt pack the animal on a noisy truck for a long ride to a
slaughterhouse with the smell of blood in the air. With the pagans,
one minute, the goat expected to be fed, the next, its meat.
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Date: Jul 16, 2007 10:07
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:20:21 -0700, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>On Jul 15, 3:19 pm, dh@. wrote:
>> I choose to consider the lives of animals raised for food
>> as well as their deaths.
>"In the Footsteps of Alexander" with Michael Woods on PBS, he found
>the Lakash, up in the Pakistan mtns next to Tibet, who claimed they
>were descendants of wounded solders left there by Alexander. This is
>believeable because they said it in ancient Greek.
>
>And they were still *Dionysian*. I've often wondered why modern
>"neopagans" have not gone there to meet the real McCoy. Anyway, while
>there, the sacrificed a goat. Now, we all know the way the Bible says
>to do it, build an altar, pile on the firewood, and burn the whole
>animal up to the greater honor of Jehovah, or whatever his name is.
Lev 1
3 " 'If the offering is a burnt offering from the herd, he is to offer
a male without defect. He must present it at the entrance to the
Tent of Meeting so that it will be acceptable to the LORD...
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Author: pearlpearl Date: Jul 17, 2007 06:41
wrote in message news:jd9n931f75u66d9r5p114gd0ad2cvsf9us@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:20:21 -0700, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 15, 3:19 pm, dh@. wrote:
>>> I choose to consider the lives of animals raised for food
>>> as well as their deaths.
>>"In the Footsteps of Alexander" with Michael Woods on PBS, he found
>>the Lakash, up in the Pakistan mtns next to Tibet, who claimed they
>>were descendants of wounded solders left there by Alexander. This is
>>believeable because they said it in ancient Greek.
>>
>>And they were still *Dionysian*. I've often wondered why modern
>>"neopagans" have not gone there to meet the real McCoy. Anyway, while
>>there, the sacrificed a goat. Now, we all know the way the Bible says
>>to do it, build an altar,...
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