because i often see the terms "conservative" and "liberal" nauseatingly abused
i wanted to offer a handy guide to their proper* use
(* use is proper when it does not nauseate me)

conservatives desire no change
historically
conservatism was a reaction to irresponsible progressivism
a desire to keep known working systems
over exploring the new social architectures that came with the scientific era
and possibly screwing things up badly

conservatism is a very useful engineering principle
that arises in any risk/reward analysis phase of design

but conservatives get fucked with a lot
because the social structures are always changing anyways
and so they end up having to be regressivists to some past ideal structure
(which they end up mythicising and building avoidance reactions to avoid seeing that past's problems)

but they aren't really regressivists really
not all the way

they aren't anarchists
in fact most conservatives have a quite a law they desire over you

galathaea wrote:

"galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar"

You should display this first and save everyone the effort of
trying to interpret your posts.

It is well known by now that the whole US political
structure is corrupt and deceiving. Perhaps the terrorists
have valid points.
IMO the whole situation is beyond the character capabilities of
H. sapiens.

"To win, is to lose. " -- 1984

On Feb 20, 2:51 pm, galathaea veawb.coop> wrote:

On Feb 20, 2:24 pm, strabo flashlight.net> wrote:

Every conservative or liberal must have a degree of either
libertarianism or populism, a degree that is also inversely
proportional.

Liberal = more government control of business and less government
control of personal life.

Conservative = less government control of business and more control of
personal life.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:51:54 -0800, galathaea wrote:

Problem: Make a cherry pie.

Today's conservative = one type of apple
Today's liberal = another type of apple

ZerkonX wrote:

A recipe for disaster.