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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Dec 24, 2007 06:37
WHY יהושע, I.E. JESUS, IS NOT THE JEWISH MESSIAH IF יהוה is the LORD
Many Christians claim that יהוה is the LORD and Elohim, while his son
יהושע is the Messiah.
All Jews reject this and rightfully so. If it were true, don't you
think there would be at least one passage in the old testament to that
effect, saying, oh, by the way, יהוה has a son named יהושע and he will
come as the Messiah?
But there is no such passage, not even the hint of such a passage, and
so the theory of these “Christians” is rightfully rejected by almost
all Jews as unfounded according to the Jewish religion.
Now, my hypothesis, however distasteful it may be to Jews, is a
possibility they cannot altogether deny if they wish to be thought of
as rational human beings.
I claim that Moshe did not know the true identity of the LORD, and
this is signified by the fact that the LORD would not allow Moshe to
see HIS face, according to the account of Moshe's enlightenment
experience that is given in Exodus itself.
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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Dec 24, 2007 07:41
> WHY יהושע, I.E. JESUS, IS NOT THE JEWISH MESSIAH IF יהוה is the LORD
>
> Many Christians claim that יהוה is the LORD and Elohim, while his son
> יהושע is the Messiah.
>
> All Jews reject this and rightfully so. If it were true, don't you
> think there would be at least one passage in the old testament to that
> effect, saying, oh, by the way, יהוה has a son named יהושע and he will
> come as the Messiah?
>
> But there is no such passage, not even the hint of such a passage, and
> so the theory of these “Christians” is rightfully rejected by almost
> all Jews as unfounded according to the Jewish religion.
>
> Now, my hypothesis, however distasteful it may be to Jews, is a
> possibility they cannot altogether deny if they wish to be thought of
> as rational human beings.
>
> I claim that Moshe did not know the true identity of the LORD, and ...
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Author: raven1raven1 Date: Dec 24, 2007 09:05
On Dec 24, 9:37 am, pjmutn...@ sbcglobal.net wrote:
*Ahem*.
Without being unduly rude...
What part of "alt.atheism" is unclear to you? Do you think that we're
just pretending not to believe in any kind of "god", and we'll admit
it if you post for long enough? Do you think that your dissertations
possess some kind of magical powers to make the unbelievers suddenly
open their eyes and say "Hallelujah, I see the light"?
I'm really curious: why are you wasting so much time and effort
splitting theological hairs in a group for people who consider
theology to be bullshit in the first place? Or are you, like so many
other theists, in denial about the fact that atheists really don't
believe in any kind of "god", and really do consider theology to be
bullshit? Does that scare you?
While you may see your musings as profound and important, to atheists,
they're about as interesting and relevant to our lives as a debate
over whether Santa's real name is "Saint Nicholas" or "Kris Kringle".
Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Merry Christmas.
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