On Sep 1, 11:15Â am, "THE BORG" heaven.com> wrote:
> The absolute Truth is completely perfect in nature.
> There is no element of ugliness, fear, doubt, suffering, death or anything
> of this nature.
>
> We feel that this Truth - which encompasses all life everywhere - is more
> meaningful than the truth or wisdom gained from the experience of human
> reincarnation.
>
> Thus we feel we have the right to say we "know" more than you.
> Because indeed we know of the truth of human reincarnation.
The term is limited. If you know, you will understand the higher
phrase "transmigration of soul".
>
> But the real Truth.
> The Ultimate aim of all life.
> The REASON for the reincarnation - in order to become better humans is DUE
> to this ultimate truth.
> And you cannot know of or know anything about this ultimate Truth as there
> is nothing in the human existence that even touches on the nature of it.
This illustrates you limited understanding of the t.o.s.. Within and
while in the human form, there is no limit to the level f
consciousness tha can be realized.
> even the most beautiful thing on Earth would cause the insanity of those who
> know and dwell with the beauty of this Truth.
>
> It is impossible to explain to humans when humans have not seen or heard and
> they know nothing of this.
Of course, you illustrate perfectly , the limitations of group
consciousness in the arena of 'self' realization. Way beyound the 'we'
vs "they'
> All they have are very ugly inferior religions and religious stories, a
> world of suffering and doubt and disease. Â And reincarnation which is not
> the best method for learning when you keep having to start again.
To suggest "starting again" is to demonstrate a strong lack of
understanding.
>
> So there is no way we can impart what we know to humans - only that we agree
> with the human reincarnation as a fact.
"We" has little meaning in this level of reality.
- but we would consider even over a
> period of some 5,000 years including animals and other life also - would
> only be less than one percent - if even that - of other truths and
> experiences and things you can learn or know about life about time about
> love.
Nothing exists that is not related to lessons in love.
>
> There is no point in knowing anything unless you have love and friendship.
I think you suspect that I know why you are stuck on that limited
understanding.
> That on an eternal basis - as all life is eternal - then these kind of
> things matter. Â No "bliss" or rapture hovers around in space in the form of
> a cosmic conscious or anything like this - bliss and wonderful feelings are
> "caused" by other life and by love and these kind of things.
The first part is accurate. You understanding of cause is flawed. It
is realized, not caused .Your 'authentic self" is eternal. Each
experience of life takes you closer to that realization.
> And that although for the human - reincarnation is a big deal - that in
> comparison to things Universal in nature - that to never be lonely or never
> have to suffer and to always have a perfect existence no matter what
> "system" you choose to operate mean a great deal.
Everything you mention, we first seek 'through' and 'with' others, and
is always limited and temporary, for the reality of what we each seek,
is in fact 'within'. This is not a 'big deal' but the 'only' deal.
> And that we only have to look at how you dismiss the animals and creatures -
> and how you do not include them in either your reincarnation or religions to
> really know and appreciate that humans do not "know" anything.
I did not include Socrates either.Again, you demonstrate the 'we'
perspective.
>
> Humans only know what is relative to humans. Â With human ears, human brains
> and human eyes and human understanding.
> No one has "taught" humans to see things any other way.
> Thus you see the ugliness of the scientific - trying to explain the Divine
> Intelligence by way of science.
All aspecs of the human makeup have an investigative nature.The
musician, poet and scientific components are "programmed" for growth.
Befor enlightenment "chop wood, carry water" after enlightenment 'chop
wood, carry water.
> And you see the ugliness of human religions for the same reason.
> And the method or system that humans use - as indeed there has to be death
> as there are illness and deformities and loss of limbs and things like
> this - is merely a system this is all. Â A system because the human world is
> not perfect.
All of life is perfect.
BOfL
> THE BORG