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Author: YTRYTR Date: Nov 12, 2007 10:59
The need to deter democracy by alienating public opinion from public
policy, is one that has been long understood. Back in 1921, the highly
influential political columnist and media analyst Walter Lippmann,
wrote the book "Public Opinion",where he discussed the need for the
"manufacture of consent"; given the inherent pitfalls and barriers to
an accurate and effective public opinion (democracy, essentially), it
is necessary that this opinion is crafted by a higher sphere of
influence. This was understood very well by Edward Bernays, who was
the founder of Public Relations (he indeed coined the term), and the
formulator of not just corporate, but also political PR. He sketches
out his views on this in his 1928 work, "Propaganda where he states
that "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized
habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in
democratic society", suggesting like Lippmann, that democracy is a
"chaos" that needs regulation from above. This "above" is a small
section of elites: "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes
formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."
These are the people who will ensure that the masses are sedated, and
free to run their daily lives, without participating in the broader
picture of public policy, given the dangers that this would pose to ...
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Author: SHOOTER586SHOOTER586 Date: Nov 12, 2007 11:10
On Nov 12, 10:59 am, YTR googlemail.com> wrote:> The need to deter democracy by alienating public opinion from public
> policy, is one that has been long understood. Back in 1921, the highly
> influential political columnist and media analyst Walter Lippmann,
> wrote the book "Public Opinion",where he discussed the need for the
> "manufacture of consent"; given the inherent pitfalls and barriers to
> an accurate and effective public opinion (democracy, essentially), it
> is necessary that this opinion is crafted by a higher sphere of
> influence. This was understood very well by Edward Bernays, who was
> the founder of Public Relations (he indeed coined the term), and the
> formulator of not just corporate, but also political PR. He sketches
> out his views on this in his 1928 work, "Propaganda where he states
> that "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized
> habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in
> democratic society", suggesting like Lippmann, that democracy is a
> "chaos" that needs regulation from above. This "above" is a small
> section of elites: "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes
> formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."
> These are the people who will ensure that the masses are sedated, and
> free to run their daily lives, without participating in the broader ...
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Author: TimTim Date: Nov 12, 2007 12:47
> On Nov 12, 10:59 am, YTR googlemail.com> wrote:>> The need to deter democracy by alienating public opinion from public
>> policy, is one that has been long understood. Back in 1921, the highly
>> influential political columnist and media analyst Walter Lippmann,
>> wrote the book "Public Opinion",where he discussed the need for the
>> "manufacture of consent"; given the inherent pitfalls and barriers to
>> an accurate and effective public opinion (democracy, essentially), it
>> is necessary that this opinion is crafted by a higher sphere of
>> influence. This was understood very well by Edward Bernays, who was
>> the founder of Public Relations (he indeed coined the term), and the
>> formulator of not just corporate, but also political PR. He sketches
>> out his views on this in his 1928 work, "Propaganda where he states
>> that "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized
>> habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in
>> democratic society", suggesting like Lippmann, that democracy is a
>> "chaos" that needs regulation from above. This "above" is a small
>> section of elites: "We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes
>> formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." ...
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Author: Malrassic ParkMalrassic Park Date: Nov 12, 2007 13:07
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:47:56 -0500, "Tim" qwerty.com> wrote:
>>
>> Celebrities such as Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell were
>> automatically lampooned as "kooks" and "whackos", As are those that
>> parrot and paste such stories on newsgroups.
>>
>
>Sure, and Sheen will offer you a million bucks if you are willing to go on
>national TV with him and present evidence that proves he's a kook. That was
>some four or five years ago, you seen any takers yet?
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Author: TimTim Date: Nov 13, 2007 01:51
"Malrassic Park" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nmfhj3t12m652l0ah8d60qd2mmfkopjlg1@4ax.com...> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:47:56 -0500, "Tim" qwerty.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Celebrities such as Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell were
>>> automatically lampooned as "kooks" and "whackos", As are those that
>>> parrot and paste such stories on newsgroups.
>>>
>>
>>Sure, and Sheen will offer you a million bucks if you are willing to go on
>>national TV with him and present evidence that proves he's a kook. That
>>was
>>some four or five years ago, you seen any takers yet?
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Author: Malrassic ParkMalrassic Park Date: Nov 13, 2007 07:53
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:51:57 -0500, "Tim" qwerty.com> wrote:
>
>"Malrassic Park" gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:nmfhj3t12m652l0ah8d60qd2mmfkopjlg1@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:47:56 -0500, "Tim" qwerty.com> wrote:>> One "independent investigation" after another until Sheen and his
>> propaganda army can finally justify their paranoia. And he could have
>> Florida counting chads long after Bush II's term was over with. What
>> an appropriate thread for your response about Charlie Sheen to appear
>> in. These people are better actors off the stage than on it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> fantasybedtimehour.com>
>Sure, I'll just shut up and let everyone read the Official 911 Report
>(hehehe). Now there's an exercise in objective research (hehehe).
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Author: Al DykesAl Dykes Date: Nov 13, 2007 08:04
>The need to deter democracy by alienating public opinion from public
>policy, is one that has been long understood. Back in 1921, the highly
>influential political columnist and media analyst Walter Lippmann,
>wrote the book "Public Opinion",where he discussed the need for the
>"manufacture of consent"; given the inherent pitfalls and barriers to
>an accurate and effective public opinion (democracy, essentially), it
>is necessary that this opinion is crafted by a higher sphere of
>influence. This was understood very well by Edward Bernays, who was
>the founder of Public Relations (he indeed coined the term), and the
....
>
>So it could be argued that there has never been a more cogent example
>of the Propaganda Model, than what we have witnessed with the mass
>media's treatment of 9/11. Rudimentary facts disappearing into
>oblivion, proponents being vilified and slandered, audiences being
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Author: Al DykesAl Dykes Date: Nov 13, 2007 08:06
In article <7JadnTb7ON2dIaXanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@aci.on.ca>,
Tim qwerty.com> wrote:>> On Nov 12, 10:59 am, YTR googlemail.com> wrote:>>> The need to deter democracy by alienating public opinion from public
>>> policy, is one that has been long understood. Back in 1921, the highly
>>> influential political columnist and media analyst Walter Lippmann,
>>> wrote the book "Public Opinion",where he discussed the need for the
>>> "manufacture of consent"; given the inherent pitfalls and barriers to
>>> an accurate and effective public opinion (democracy, essentially), it
>>> is necessary that this opinion is crafted by a higher sphere of
>>> influence. This was understood very well by Edward Bernays, who was
>>> the founder of Public Relations (he indeed coined the term), and the
>>> formulator of not just corporate, but also political PR. He sketches
>>> out his views on this in his 1928 work, "Propaganda where he states
>>> that "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized
>>> habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in
>>> democratic society", suggesting like Lippmann, that democracy is a ...
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Author: Al DykesAl Dykes Date: Nov 13, 2007 08:07
In article ,
Tim qwerty.com> wrote:>
>"Malrassic Park" gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:nmfhj3t12m652l0ah8d60qd2mmfkopjlg1@4ax.com...>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:47:56 -0500, "Tim" qwerty.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> Celebrities such as Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell were
>>>> automatically lampooned as "kooks" and "whackos", As are those that
>>>> parrot and paste such stories on newsgroups.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sure, and Sheen will offer you a million bucks if you are willing to go on
>>>national TV with him and present evidence that proves he's a kook. That
>>>was
>>>some four or five years ago, you seen any takers yet?
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Date: Nov 13, 2007 08:41
Lie lie lie. Do it often enough and long enough and people will start
believing you. I have to admit that distorting the truth about
something that was so broadly witnessed and for which the true is so
self-evident take enormous gonads (or stupidity). I wonder when they
will realize that wanting something to be true does not make it true.
The question is, "Who is more dangerous?" Those who committed the
horrible acts of 9/11 or those who lie about it.
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