> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>> ever have become truly democratic.

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> Yeah, that explains how the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba and
> North Korea did so well to establish democracy.
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> You fucking idiot!

> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>>> ever have become truly democratic.

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>> Yeah, that explains how the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba and
>> North Korea did so well to establish democracy.

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>> You fucking idiot!

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> Logical fallacy:
> If B (democratic) means A (Secular), does not mean A must mean B.
> A is a prerequisite of B, it does not mean it A automatically result
> in B ...

> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>>>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>>>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>>>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>>>> ever have become truly democratic.

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>>> Yeah, that explains how the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba and
>>> North Korea did so well to establish democracy.

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> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>>>>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>>>>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>>>>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>>>>> ever have become truly democratic.

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>>>> Yeah, that explains how the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba and
>>>> North Korea did so well to establish democracy.

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> On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

>   What you're going to do now is tell me about the scintillating
> democracy that is run by atheists.  You lose, pal.  Seriously, are you
> actually under the impression that you can provide some horse hockey
> that will convince me that nations that don't believe in God have the
> greatest democracies?  

> On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>>>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>>>>>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>>>>>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>>>>>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>>>>>> ever have become truly democratic. ...

> On Jan 15, 5:05 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 15, 2:47 pm,Hattergmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm,Hattergmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>   What you're going to do now is tell me about the scintillating
>> democracy that is run by atheists.  You lose, pal.  Seriously, are you
>> actually under the impression that you can provide some horse hockey
>> that will convince me that nations that don't believe in God have the
>> greatest democracies?  

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> ROFL! Idiot. ...

> On Jan 15, 5:20 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> On Jan 15, 5:05 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>> On Jan 15, 2:47 pm,Hattergmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm,Hattergmail.com> wrote:

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>>>>>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:

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>> snip

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>>>   What you're going to do now is tell me about the scintillating ...

> On Jan 15, 12:01 pm, Hatter gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Jan 14, 8:18 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jan 14, 5:44 pm, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> Originally the USA was founded on atheistic principles. Its greatest
>>>> intellectual influence was Thomas Paine.
>>>> Only a state that rejects the dogmatism and universal moral code of
>>>> authority that is only found in religion and a belief in god could
>>>> ever have become truly democratic.

>>> Yeah, that explains how the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba and
>>> North Korea did so well to establish democracy.
>>> You fucking idiot!

>> Logical fallacy:
>> If B (democratic) means A (Secular), does not mean A must mean B.
>> A is a prerequisite of B, it does not mean it A automatically result
>> in B
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>> Followed by an Ad Hom, tsk tsk.
>> ...

>On Jan 15, 5:20 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Jan 15, 5:05 pm, Osiris88 gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jan 15, 2:47 pm,Hattergmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Jan 15, 4:25 pm,...