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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Date: Mar 2, 2008 04:31

Anders Honoré wrote:
> Tang Huyen skrev:
>
>> It is pointless, dear. Pure, clean fun.
>> Haven't you heard of the pointlessness
>> of Buddhism and Daoism? Would you
>> need to pin everything down to a point?
>
> I've heard of the pointlessness of Daoism, but I haven't looked into
> it much.
>
> As for Buddhism, it acknowledges cause and effect and also
> compassionate activity, so your pointlessness would constitue being
> mired in the view of emptiness and/or the naturalist heresy. I know of
> no buddhadharma where pointlessness could be ascribed as a purpose of
> any given action.

Wow!
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Anders Honoré
Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:07

Tang Huyen skrev:
> Anders Honor� wrote:
>
>>
>> As for Buddhism, it acknowledges cause and effect and also
>> compassionate activity, so your pointlessness would constitue being
>> mired in the view of emptiness and/or the naturalist heresy. I know of
>> no buddhadharma where pointlessness could be ascribed as a purpose of
>> any given action.
>
>
> You must know of the three doors to
> liberation, emptiness, signlessness,
> wishlessness. The third is a clumsy
> translation for "not putting anything
> in front", a-pranihita, where pranihita
> corresponds to Latin propositum
> "plan". It means absence of aim, of
> goal, of intention, of ... planning. The
> Buddhist sage has no aim, no goal, no ...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:22

Anders Honoré wrote:
> I am familiar with it and your's is a nice demonstration of what
> happens when people conflate the two truths. You end up with
> statements like 'it's all nirvana, dude' leading to the kind of
> naturalist...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Anders Honoré
Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:34

Tang Huyen skrev:
> Anders Honor� wrote:
>
>> I am familiar with it and your's is a nice demonstration of what
>> happens when people conflate the two truths. You end up with
>> statements like 'it's all nirvana, dude' leading to the kind of
>> naturalist nihilism the likes of Dahui and Hakuin continually raged
>> against (although the implications of you acting entirely from the
>> liberated basis of wishlessness are noteworthy).
>>
>> Your proposition that being liberated by wishlesness negates acting
>> with any kind of purpose is as absurd as saying that owing to one's
>> liberation through signlessness one has no perception of signs anymore
>> either. In the same way, saying "it's all pointless" in reply to a
>> query about a particular function or purpose of an action as...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:42

Anders Honoré wrote:
> Tang Huyen skrev:
>
>> Defending yourself to save face, dear?
>
> No, I am expressing my dissatisfaction at your inability to answer
> simple questions. If you don't want to answer them, it would have...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Anders Honoré
Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:49

Tang Huyen skrev:
> Nice defence. Keep up with it.

Thanks.
> But better just relax and be serene.

I'll get on that in a second.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Hollywood Lee
Date: Mar 2, 2008 06:04

Anders Honoré wrote:
> Tang Huyen skrev:
>> Nice defence. Keep up with it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>> But better just relax and be serene.
>
> I'll get on that in a second.
>
> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

brilliant! I didn't know tang's couch could talk.
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Keynes
Date: Mar 2, 2008 06:12

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 05:34:40 -0800 (PST), "Anders Honoré" gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Tang Huyen skrev:
>> Anders Honor? wrote:
>>
>>> I am familiar with it and your's is a nice demonstration of what
>>> happens when people conflate the two truths. You end up with
>>> statements like...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Robert Epstein
Date: Mar 2, 2008 09:22

Tang Huyen wrote:
>
> Anders Honoré wrote:
>
>
>>Tang Huyen skrev:
>>
>>
>>>It is pointless, dear. Pure, clean fun.
>>>Haven't you heard of the pointlessness
>>>of Buddhism and Daoism? Would you
>>>need to pin everything...
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Re: I don't get this (was Re: Susceptibility)         


Author: Robert Epstein
Date: Mar 2, 2008 09:26

Anders Honoré wrote:
> Tang Huyen skrev:
>
>>Nice defence. Keep up with it.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>>But better just relax and be serene.
>
>
> I'll get on that in a second.
>
> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

that is too funny.

robert

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