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Author: Szymon von UlezalkaSzymon von Ulezalka Date: Feb 23, 2008 07:04
hi.
i'm interested on Sled 10, and i've got some questions about it
- whats the current version of : kernel, kde, glibc?
- x64 bit platform- will it recognise 4g ram on default kernel (so i
dont have to recompile it)? what with x86 ?
- codecs, flashplayer etc- are they installed by default (on both
platforms)?
- what with acpi/special keys support (acer 5685wlmi)? does it
supports hibernate/suspend etc out of box?
- my laptop has intel wifi abg 3945 - will it work correctly with
encrypted networks?
i know- i should install it by myself, but i'd like to get answers for
this question prior to format my harddrive and installing new distro
szymon (simon)
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Author: Günther SchwarzGünther Schwarz Date: Feb 23, 2008 07:30
Szymon von Ulezalka wrote:
> i'm interested on Sled 10, and i've got some questions about it
>
> - whats the current version of : kernel, kde, glibc?
You can answer this and most of the following questions most easily if
downloading the ISO image of the installation dvd and inspecting the
rpm packages. Also have a look at the disk named 'SDK software
developer kit' which contains additional packages. AFAIK Novell does
not have a complete listing of packages on their web site.
> - x64 bit platform- will it recognise 4g ram on default kernel (so i
> dont have to recompile it)?
Most certainly the answer is yes.
> - what with acpi/special keys support (acer 5685wlmi)? does it
> supports hibernate/suspend etc out of box?
SLED 10 is based on an older version of openSuSE (10.0)? Hardware
support is better on the most recent distribution openSuSE 10.3. On my
laptop (Asus M2N) suspend did not work with openSuSE prior to 10.2. I
gave up on SLED 10 also rather quickly because it does not support the
NIC of the new Intel Q35 chipset.
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Author: Szymon von UlezalkaSzymon von Ulezalka Date: Feb 23, 2008 07:51
On 23 Lut, 15:30, Günther Schwarz wrote:
> Szymon von Ulezalka wrote:
>> i'm interested on Sled 10, and i've got some questions about it
>
>> - whats the current version of : kernel, kde, glibc?
>
> You can answer this and most of the following questions most easily if
> downloading the ISO image of the installation dvd and inspecting the
> rpm packages. Also have a look at the disk named 'SDK software
> developer kit' which contains additional packages. AFAIK Novell does
> not have a complete listing of packages on their web site.
>
>> - x64 bit platform- will it recognise 4g ram on default kernel (so i
>> dont have to recompile it)?
>
> Most certainly the answer is yes.
>
>> - what with acpi/special keys support (acer 5685wlmi)? does it
>> supports hibernate/suspend etc out of box?
> ...
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Author: Günther SchwarzGünther Schwarz Date: Feb 23, 2008 08:15
Szymon von Ulezalka wrote:
> On 23 Lut, 15:30, Günther Schwarz wrote:
>> Szymon von Ulezalka wrote:
>>> i'm interested on Sled 10, and i've got some questions about it
>>> - what with acpi/special keys support (acer 5685wlmi)? does it
>>> supports hibernate/suspend etc out of box?
>>
>> SLED 10 is based on an older version of openSuSE (10.0)? Hardware
>> support is better on the most recent distribution openSuSE 10.3. On
>> my laptop (Asus M2N) suspend did not work with openSuSE prior to
>> 10.2. I gave up on SLED 10 also rather quickly because it does not
>> support the NIC of the new Intel Q35 chipset.
> in opensuse10.3 hibernation + suspend worked out of box- i hope it
> will work on sled10 as well.
Let us know how it worked out. That said I rather doubt that SLED will
be the best choice for a more or less recent laptop computer. There is
a price one has to pay for the long term support. It might be also
worth spending some time on tuxmobile and such sites instead of
struggling with an installation that will not work anyway.
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Author: houghihoughi Date: Feb 23, 2008 12:25
Günther Schwarz wrote:
> Let us know how it worked out. That said I rather doubt that SLED will
> be the best choice for a more or less recent laptop computer. There is
> a price one has to pay for the long term support. It might be also
> worth spending some time on tuxmobile and such sites instead of
> struggling with an installation that will not work anyway.
Well, SLED and SLES 11 will be out somewhere at the end of the summer.
Also there is an SP1 available for SUSE 10. Not sure wether that is free
or payable, but if you are going to use SUSE instead of openSUSE, you
better pay anyway. Otherwise there is realy no point in running it.
houghi
--
First we thought the PC was a calculator. Then we found out how to turn
numbers into letters with ASCII and we thought it was a typewriter. Then
we discovered graphics, and we thought it was television. With the World
Wide Web, we've realized it's a brochure. -- Douglas Adams.
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Author: Günther SchwarzGünther Schwarz Date: Feb 23, 2008 12:48
houghi wrote:
> Günther Schwarz wrote:
>> Let us know how it worked out. That said I rather doubt that SLED
>> will be the best choice for a more or less recent laptop computer.
>> There is a price one has to pay for the long term support.
> Well, SLED and SLES 11 will be out somewhere at the end of the summer.
Half a year is a lot of time in the IT business.
> Also there is an SP1 available for SUSE 10. Not sure wether that is
> free or payable, but if you are going to use SUSE instead of openSUSE,
> you better pay anyway. Otherwise there is realy no point in running
> it.
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Author: houghihoughi Date: Feb 23, 2008 14:31
Günther Schwarz wrote:
>> Well, SLED and SLES 11 will be out somewhere at the end of the summer.
>
> Half a year is a lot of time in the IT business.
Yes. Depending on what you need it for, you could run openSUSE in the
meantime.
> It is simply impossible to run it without a contract with Novell as the
> update repositories are not open to the public.
Well, you CAN run it, but you get no updates. However that could be
enough for testing purposes.
> That said I get SLED 10 and the patches for free :-)
I have a key laying around somewhere here as well.
> Still I can't use it because of the hardware problems. The enterprise
> desktop does get very interesting if one runs not one or a dozen, but
> some hundreds desktop systems: buy hardware that is supported, install
> it, configure it with cfengine, run 'rug up' as a daily cron job, and
> then forget it until the hardware gets obsolete. Much less work than
> with openSuSE or any other of the more regularly updated distributions.
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Author: houghihoughi Date: Feb 23, 2008 16:27
houghi wrote:
--
Theologians can pursuade themselves of anything. Anyone who can worship
a trinity and insists that his religion is a monotheism can believe
anything -- just give him time to rationalize it.
Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
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Author: Günther SchwarzGünther Schwarz Date: Feb 24, 2008 01:36
houghi wrote:
> Günther Schwarz wrote:
>> Still I can't use it because of the hardware problems. The enterprise
>> desktop does get very interesting if one runs not one or a dozen, but
>> some hundreds desktop systems: buy hardware that is supported,
>> install it, configure it with cfengine, run 'rug up' as a daily cron
>> job, and then forget it until the hardware gets obsolete. Much less
>> work than with openSuSE or any other of the more regularly updated
>> distributions.
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Author: houghihoughi Date: Feb 24, 2008 02:17
Günther Schwarz wrote:
> I do not need that as cfengine does the job for me. There are not enough
> computers with identical hardware to justify the effort of making an
> automatic installation.
Hence the use of YaST as the automated installer. It is NOT an image
type of instalation. The example I have seen yesterday is of schools who
do the instalation on a variaty of hardware. Basicaly during the
instalation the teacher selects from three choices.
1) Teacher
2) Student
3) Home
That is all (s)he selects.
> What I do have on my list I'd like to see on
> SuSE distributions is a) a working rpm for cfengine
I do not know it enough to judge that. However I do believe SLES and
SLED have something similar in YaST. Not sure.
> and b) the possibility to read and write simple ascii lists of rpm
> packages within the YAST software installation module.
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