John Gilmer chose the Bull and Bush pub in Orlando to meet with me, so that's
where we met. This is Bull and Bush:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/BullnBush.jpg

This is a close up of the window:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/BullnBushWindow.jpg

This is a close up of the Bull and Bush sign:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/BullnBushSign.jpg

This is a close up of the Bull and Bush front door which shows the street
number. You can see my reflection in the glass.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/BullnBushAddress.jpg

John wouldn't let me take a picture of him but he let me take a picture of his
LandRover:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/PJsLandRoverInOrlando.jpg

We had a jolly good time. He talked about his little sister (I think John said
her married name was Martin) who lives near Lexington KY and her kids, Philip
and Julia... He also talked a lot about his other sister, whom I think Gilmer
said married David Magee and their kids are Megan and Ryan and they also live
around Lexington if I remember right.

On Aug 24, 9:31 am, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

If "we" did meet then that's going to come as quite a surprise to my
digital voice recorder, which shows me talking to myself the entire
time that I was there ;)

The Karen Anderson kook is reaching legendary proportions. Faking a
meeting - c'mon! Talk about being fucking obsessed!

Karen, did you fly into Orlando just to drive past my truck? You and
your various nyms were silent for about 24 hours the day before the
supposed meeting - I was wondering if you were getting on a plane the
day before and flying in from Bremerton. Anyone here (ANTU) can go
back and see that there was very little posting for the period of time
before the "meet" and none of it came from you.

I'm just glad that you didn't try the "picked the wrong place" dodge.
I was thinking that was how you were going to try to explain your no-
show.

--PirateJohn--
http://www.PirateJohn.com

In article 25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...

There's no *if* about it, John... we did meet, and yes, you did talk to
yourself. You were drunk, remember?

Why are you stalling, John? Are you frantically erasing my voice from your
recorder? You *KNOW* I was there, John... Stop lying about it...

On Aug 24, 11:12 am, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

I'll let the recording speak for itself. I have photos that
synchronize to my cell phone calls and my GPS, and the times originate
from those sources so there shouldn't be any issues of editing or
deleting.

You weren't there Karen. We didn't have any "conversation." I left,
drove to where my meeting was at and since I was early I went to a
sandwich shop. Corned beef and two Bass Ales (the first beers of the
day, I might add, since you clowns keep making up this desperate BS
about me drinking to excess). I'm pretty sure that I have the
receipts and with any luck at all they are time stamped.

In article <3aab7905-3530-4fd9-b92e-efb93312f51b@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
PyrateJohn says...

John, John, John... we didn't chat at a sandwich shop... I ate lunch at The
Pub on the way home after we met:

On 24 Aug 2008 06:31:37 -0700, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

:>John Gilmer chose the Bull and Bush pub in Orlando to meet with me, so that's
:>where we met. This is Bull and Bush:
:>
:>This is a close up of the Bull and Bush front door which shows the street
:>number. You can see my reflection in the glass.
:>
:>http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f221/terracops/BullnBushAddress.jpg

Uh huh. And where is the proof that you are who you say you are? A
reflection that could be anyone. You have a history of arranging for
people to do long distance dirty work for you, Karen.

From: Lumpy gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:39:26 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Ken, [ ....]

On 24 Aug 2008 06:31:37 -0700, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

:>We had a jolly good time. He talked about his little sister (I think John said
:>her married name was Martin) who lives near Lexington KY and her kids, Philip
:>and Julia... He also talked a lot about his other sister, whom I think Gilmer
:>said married David Magee and their kids are Megan and Ryan and they also live
:>around Lexington if I remember right.

Too many details, Karen. Remember you've claimed John emailed you for two
years.

You have not met the burden of proof.

On Aug 24, 9:31 am, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

Well, I'll be damned. I completely missed the caption claiming that
was you. The person in that picture isn't some grizziled 60 year old
Viet Vet. It's some young, skinny punk that's barely old enough to
shave!!!!

If that's you then it's no wonder that you got your ass out of there
before I came along!! ROFL!!

I have no fucking idea who this insignificant dweeb in the photo is,
but the description kinda reminds me of some fuckup whose name now
escapes me who used to post in the dave.barry group. Until I ran his
ass off from usenet, that is. Some wannabe writer that never was.
Eric, isn't it?

As they say, bahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!

On Aug 24, 1:02 pm, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:

On Aug 24, 1:08 pm, Sarah Czepiel cox.net> wrote:

Among female Real World stalkers slightly over 50%% get a sympathetic
person, usually male, to help them.

Although the person taking the photo could have been just a random
dweeb. There were plenty of 20-somethings walking around.