Group: alt.nuke.the.usa · Group Profile
Author: KarenKaren Date: Aug 30, 2008 10:52
"Ken Ehrett" olg.com> wrote in message
news:knqhb4pj9o2q0o1jp9aqa1ctmeh239aa3f@4ax.com> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:07:16 GMT, "Karen" nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> In the past 4 years I don't recognize ONE thing about the man I
>>> thought I knew. Nothing. I could "talk" to him, share anything.
>>> He was understanding, supportive, sensible and controlled...had
>>> good judgment and made good suggestions. He promised to "always be
>>> there for me"....I took that to mean as a FRIEND. It was
>>> understood I didn't want ANYTHING else. He had nothing to offer me
>>> but his "friendship". And I was grateful to him and tried often to
>>> convey or show that. He was patient with me and NEVER got angry or
>>> was nasty to me. Any woman would appreciate a guy like that when
>>> she was going through a rough spot. Of course, he has perfected
>>> his skills and that's how he lures and snags his victims....that
>>> charm is his bait. That's how Sociopaths and Psychopaths operate.
>>> So few people recognize what is right in front of their
>>> faces....until it is too late. Remember Ted Bundy? I've "met" his
>>> possible successor.
>
> If it was understood that you didn't want ANYTHING but friendship from
> Gilmer and that he had nothing to offer you but his friendship then
> why do you keep insisting that you went to Florida to meet Gilmer on
> a date?
Wrong. I went to Florida to attend a 3-day German music fest in Cape
Coral. The music was provided by my personal friends from Milwaukee and
Cleveland, one of them playing MY accordion that I had recently GIVEN to
him (which John knew all about). I wanted to see and hear it. I'm in
WA, he is in WI and was going to bring it along to FL. I planned to
stay longer than just the weekend and go to DisneyWorld and visit a
couple of friends, too. I FLEW DOWN....from Seattle to Chicago and on
to Ft. Myers airport where I rented a car to drive around in
Florida..duh.
John picked up on alt.obits that I was going to FL and mentioned St.
Augustine. From then on it was non-stop email to me that we just HAD to
meet for LUNCH. He was going to motorcycle down to Cape Coral from
Jacksonville to take me to lunch. I did NOT WANT that!! He would
embarrass me in front of my friends, the way he looks. Besides, I went
there to see/hear ALL the music. I didn't want to leave and go
somewhere with a bizarre-looking biker for "lunch". Food was plentiful
right there at the festival....mostly GERMAN food which Gilmer certainly
wouldn't eat. I just plain did NOT WANT HIM THERE!!
It took weeks of back and forth email between us before he convinced me
to meet him at all and since he was soooooo busy, I agreed to drive to
JAX because I had decided to see St. Augustine anyway. We agree on
SATURDAY because Friday wasn't going to work for either of us. I landed
Thursday afternoon in Ft. Myers; I couldn't be in JAX for lunch the next
day!!
I called him from Lakeland, FL when I got there Thursday evening. I
wouldn't leave a message with the FEMALE voice that was on his
voicemail. He redialed the number the next morning and reached my motel
room. I told him I had shopping to do and wouldn't be leaving Lakeland
till nearly noon. Would call him when I got to Jax...FRIDAY EVENING.
And we would meet AS PLANNED at my motel SATURDAY late morning and I'd
follow him down to Matanzas Innlet and we'd have lunch, maybe follow
with a walk on the beach and then we would both go our separate ways.
It was agreed the "date" would last about 2 hours. End of story.
I left Lakeland about noon and was in no rush to get to JAX. I stopped
for lunch and later caught I10 at Lake City and headed to my motel at
JAX. But I decided to fill with gas first...which I always do when
traveling so my tank is full and I'm ready for the next day's
activities. I didn't see any stations around I5 and I10 so I turned
south instead of north to find a station. I did a few miles down the
road. Gassed up the car and then headed north to the motel.
When I walked in at 6:15 PM, tired and windblown, the clerk handed me a
card....John's card...and said he had phoned NUMEROUS times all
afternoon to see if I had "checked in yet"...and then he showed up on
his motorcycle and strolled in the motel office with his helmet under
his arm at 6 PM....and left his card with her to give to me. He didn't
wait at ALL to see if I might show up any minute but took right off
immediately. I showed up 15 minutes later and it was because I'd gone
out of my way for gas or I'd have been startled to see him there about
18 hours before he was supposed to be. I wouldn't have been pleased
about that kind of ambush, either. Do you make a date, Ken, with a
woman for the first time and then show up the NIGHT BEFORE?
Why didn't he tell me on Friday morning on the phone that he was going
to show up that night instead of Saturday morning? I can guarantee you
that I would have NOT even gone to JAX, but headed straight east to
Orlando and MAYBE run up to St. Aug at some point.
It was some kind of ambush plain and simple. He had PLANS with Deborah
and wanted to ditch me but knew I'd be FURIOUS so he did his usual
"game-playing" and "juggling" in hopes to let me down gently so I would
agree that "it just didn't work out".
There was no place around my motel to eat but McDonalds and Denny's.
THAT wasn't the kind of place we were supposed to have LUNCH.....at 6:30
PM?!
John is a devious FUCK-UP. He did it with me. He did it with Jose. He
does it with everybody. It's all about HIS plans and HIS life and HIS
agenda. He is a Sociopath and a Psychopath who can't begin to relate to
ANYBODY else's needs or feelings. It all about ME ME ME ME ME with him.
He's a Narcissist, too.
I had absolutely NO intention of this private mess EVER hitting the
newsgroups and I assumed he would be too embarrassed to mention it.
Wrong!! I wasn't aware that he has no shame, can't feel embarrassment,
has no integrity or personal dignity. He realized he couldn't get
anywhere with me anymore in email so he took it to HIS arena where he
has an AUDIENCE and likely enough support to keep him on the offensive.
He made a pre-emptive strike and has been on the offensive ever
since...because of people like you and Sarah who support him...and I
needed to back off from revealing anything further. There's nobody left
anymore but the 2 of you and the k00k crowd. None of you carry any
weight at all on Usenet so TEAM KAREN has won.
There *IS* power in the truth....and the truth is all on MY side.
Period.
Still confused, Kenny?
snoshoo/Karen aka "Karen Hon"
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