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Group: alt.nuke.the.usa · Group Profile
Author: ZapRatz
Date: Aug 13, 2008 04:11

sara cesspool spewed some'more psycho shit via:
>From: Sarah Czepiel cox.net>
>Newsgroups: alt.nuke.the.usa,alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.obituaries,rec.autos.driving
>Subject: Re: Sarah Still Can't Tell The Truth
>Message-ID: 4ax.com>
>Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:45:35 -0400

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:45:35 -0400, Sarah Czepiel cox.net>
wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:02:52 -0700, "\"Team Karen\" member"
>cocks.net> wrote:
>
>:>
>:>"Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote in message
>:>news:2ev0a45d9jqlc8ol77rkk8s74qemfi7b9o@4ax.com
>:>
>:>> All of this got started when Karen Anderson socking as Lumpy displayed
>:>> Ken's court record.
>:>
>:>
>:>Perhaps if you would accept that LUMPY is not and never has been "Karen
>:>Anderson"....
>
>Ok so tell me Lumpy's verifiable name.
>
>:>> One lie after another built on your own false assumptions.
>:>
>:>See above ... you and Ken started ALL of this ... plus you believe
>:>"PirateJohn"s lies plus you promote them and enable him; therefore you
>:>are getting exactly what you deserve and until you can see the error of
>:>your ways, what you are whining about won't be ending anytime soon.
>
>No one is whining. We've already told you you're going to get your shit
>thrown right back at you.

And I'm doing the same to you.

You tell lies about, or denigrate, me for no reason other than you
incorrectly assume I'm guilty of something, and I'm going to retaliate
in response to your abuse.
>
>:>One by one, you have dragged MANY people into ANTU who try to point out
>:>what you two are about. Nobody has lied or pulled the shit on you that
>:>YOU, Sarah et al, have done to us - lies, forgeries, lies, altering
>:>posts, lies, complaints to isps, lies, attempting to get accounts
>:>terminated, false accusations, phony pictures of an innocent woman put
>:>on the internet for ridicule, lies and more lies and MORE LIES. You
>:>STARTED this and we will finish it.
>
>You're a bunch of anonymous nyms blubbering threats on usenet. Tell me
>your real names.

You know my real name yet you tell lies about me and post malicious
statements about me.

Therefore, you cannot be trusted.
> And if those lies about Karen are true, get the website
>taken down.

Just like that, huh? Okay, you get GoogleGroups and AOL to enforce
their Terms of Service when useless deadbeat LOSERs like gilturd hide
behind the domain administrators' refusal to police accounts
registered with them.
>
>
>:>You've laid down with Gilmer, so see what you get up with .... when you
>:>can see the light and get your act together, you will be the final nail
>:>in his Usenet coffin. As of now, you are the LAST supporter he has,
>:>DumbAss.
>
>If Gilmer's web page is wrong then why haven't you gotten it taken down?

For the reason I state in my previous paragraph.
>If Karen Anderson isn't linked to you then what do you care in the first
>place?

Why do you accuse people for actions they not only didn't commit, but,
also had no prior knowledge about?
>
>
>:>You are ANOTHER of PirateJohn Gilmer's "female" victims. Get a fawking
>:>clue...!!
>
>Cmelak, you stupid fat fuck.

Eat shit, but mostly, DIE YOU UGLY FUCKING CRACK-WHORE SKANK.

I did not post the comment and/or message to which you posted your
follow-up.

When are you going to wake the fuck up and quit accusing me of posting
messages I had nothing to do with?

The sooner you stop mentioning my name in response to things I had no
connection with, the better off all of us will be. Until then, I'm
going to post retaliatory content.

I've never met PJ in person but both Ken and
>I have spoken with him on several occasions. He's not hiding who he is,
>nor is he hiding his website.

That doesn't make the content presented in his usenet messages or on
his shitty websites the truth. All your comment signifies is that his
shitty websites exist.

If you really cared about the truth, you'd demand that gilturd provide
citation for the content he presents in his usenet messages and on his
shitty webpages.

Why do you blindly believe his bullshit but ignore, refuse to believe,
and question everything other people state?

Ken and I aren't hiding from anyone. You
>anonymous nyms are the cowards writing the lies, not us.

Instead of ignoring what I post, utilize the links and other data I
present and see for yourself that I speak the truth about gilturd.

Conversely, demand that gilturd cite references for what he presents
and you'll find that he can't because he makes up the vast majority of
it. Add to that the reality that he plagiarizes anyone and anything he
can because he's morally and ethically bankrupt, and it's obvious to
see that gilturd is a useless deadbeat.

You're so
>terrified of anyone knowing what even your voice sounds like. While you
>hide in the shadows, PJ, Ken and myself are here, we're real, and our posts
>and our histories can be traced back to who we are. You want people to
>believe the idiotic nonsense of a bunch of anonymous nyms and not the
>people who you can pick up and phone and speak with. No one else is as
>insane and you.
>
>Make it real. Give us a name and a phone number and we'll talk about it
>like we've talked with PJ. Otherwise we're going to believe the words and
>photographic evidence sitting on a clearly traceable website that you can't
>take down.

Yeah, right. See below for valid reasons why you cannot be trusted.

=========================================
=========================================

In response to more irrational, illogical, and unfounded asinine
comments from psycho sara cesspool who posted via:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:26:38 -0400, Sarah Czepiel cox.net>
wrote:
>From: Sarah Czepiel cox.net>
>Newsgroups: alt.nuke.the.usa,alt.gossip.celebrities,alt.obituaries
>Subject: Re: Sarah Still Can't Tell The Truth
>Message-ID: <2ev0a45d9jqlc8ol77rkk8s74qemfi7b9o@4ax.com>
>Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:26:38 -0400
>
>On 11 Aug 2008 10:49:58 -0700, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>:>In article 4ax.com>, Sarah Czepiel says...
>:>>
>:>>On 11 Aug 2008 09:59:10 -0700, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:
>:>>
>:>>:>In article <84q0a4pdu94j4hv0mani6i3r1inaurc0r0@4ax.com>, Sarah Czepiel says...
>:>>:>>
>:>>:>>On 10 Aug 2008 22:19:28 -0700, Jose Gaspar newsguy.com> wrote:
>:>>:>>
>:>>:>>I keep my word.
>:>>:>
>:>>:>No you don't. You invited me to continue to post to ANTU. That's your word.
>:>>
>:>>Did you honestly think you were welcome to stay to continue with this nonsense vendetta?
>:>
>:>You're too mentally ill to understand that I did NOT start any vendetta.
>
>All of this got started when Karen Anderson socking as Lumpy displayed
>Ken's court record. Ken had no idea who any of you were, nor did I prior
>to that incident. Karen is batshit crazy because of some relationship she
>imagined I have with Pirate John. You have actively participated in her
>vendetta against Ken and myself going as far as coming into antu,
>threatening me, threatening Ken, posting our personal details, and so
>forth. And when you couldn't find anything other than Ken's court records
>you started making up the lies. One lie after another built on your own
>false assumptions.
>
>:>YOU DID! Did it ever occur to you why you have been accused of doing the same thing
>:>over and over and over for over 12 years? You need help...
>
>Who has accused me of starting vendetta's for over 12 years? Do you have
>any idea that antu is an international flame group? Historically it has
>been the yanks versus the world. Until you mental cases showed up it was
>assumed if you were a yank you were an ally. But that stupid crazy bitch
>Karen Anderson from Bremerton Washington has dragged up all the personal
>details on everyone. Karen Anderson and William Cmelak have a long
>history of posting personal records of people on usenet.

Whose personal records have I posted to usenet?

The answer is:

Only asspyrate/piratejohn gilmer gilturd's ever since he maligned me
by posting my personal data into numerous newsgroups and onto various
malformed websites and webpages he's created for that specific form of
abuse.

And, since you have a proclivity to demand that everyone "cite" some
facts which you still choose to ignore or don't want to believe, here
is some evidence to back up my statement:

==================================
==================================

From BuccaneerJuan@aol.com Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
From: aol.com>
To: spamcop.net>
Return-Path: aol.com>
Delivered-To: spamcop-net-hoodoo@spamcop.net
Message-ID: <155.46f97f26.2f04d831@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
Subject: Food for thought

If I post a $500 reward for information leading to your identity,
do you think that anyone will give you up? How about some of the
folks that you have traded CD's with?

Just a thought. And if you want to publicize this otherwise
private email go right ahead. Maybe that will help to get the
ball rolling.

- - -

From: Juan aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Reward for Hoodoo's identification
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:52:07 -0800
Message-ID: <1104666727.478234.223330@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

I am offering a $500 reward for the identification of Hoodoo. Don't
want to do anything illegal or immoral here, but it's simply important
that I get a handle on who he is so that I can get some legal action
going.

- - -

From: Juan aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Poor Juan Gilmer - Usenet Imbecile
Date: 1 Jan 2005 18:53:17 -0800
Message-ID: <1104634397.370888.228410@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

Tell you guys what. $300 for the first person who can give me a real
world name and address for Hoodoo.

- - -

From: Juan aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Re: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts
about,"buccaneerjuan@aol.com", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:29:56 -0800
Message-ID: <1104665396.244385.138120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Yes, folks, there is now a reward for the identification of Hoodoo.
Anyone who wants to take a shot at it please let me know.

- - -

From: Juan aol.com>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Happy New Year from John Gilmer
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:27:14 -0800
Message-ID: <1104665234.814877.116610@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

And, yes, there is now a reward for anyone who can provide
information and identify the Hoodoo troll ;)

- - -

From: Juan aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Re: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts
"buccaneerjuan@aol.com", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:32:14 -0800
Message-ID: <1104665534.697970.136400@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

And yes folks, as he said there is now a bounty for the
udentification of the troll known as Hoodoo. If you have any ideas
let me know.

==================================
==================================

Notice that the first example was an outright threat gilturd
transmitted to my email account.

Notice also, in light of gilturd's malicious actions over the past 3.5
years, the bullshit and lies he stated regarding both:

"Don't want to do anything illegal or immoral here,..."

[and, one of his earliest hollow threats of enacting litigation
against people he initially harassed and provoked, via:]

"...but it's simply important that I get a handle on who he is so that
I can get some legal action going."

[Furthermore, with sara cesspool's online behavior so closely aligned
with gilturd's lies in that passage cited immediately above, who the
hell would be stupid enough to engage in personal contact with her via
telephone, postal mail, email or any other form of communication other
than the somewhat secure cloaking usenet messaging provides?]

assface gilturd has reaped what he sowed. The major difference is, I
post factual data about his despicable so-called life in retaliation
for the malicious bullshit and lies he presents about me.

If you think the things gilmer posts about me are true, why doesn't he
provide citation as to where corroboration may be found to back up his
claims?

You're a stickler for citation, sara cesspool, why don't you demand
that gilturd provide citation for the copious amount of content he
presents online regarding me, Karen, and/or anyone else? Huh? Why do
you only demand citation from we who are diligently countering the
lies and abuse you, kenfool, and gilturd present online?

As for the reason gilturd doesn't cite references for what he presents
in usenet messages and on his malformed webpages is, he can't, because
he fabricated all but the most basic data about me such as my name and
the names of relatives. He doesn't even know where I live so he
continually posts the names of two different towns tens of miles
distant from each other.

If half he shit gilturd presents online about Karen were true he'd be
able to provide references so anyone may see the evidence for
themselves. But, again, he can't provide that crucial evidence because
he made the vast majority of the content up to flesh out his nefarious
scams, schemes, and outright lies.

Now compare what gilturd presents online to what I present about him
in retaliation. I include brief newsgroup message headers, or at least
message identification data, and website/page addresses to back up my
presented information.

If you think I posted any personal records of yours, you are full of
shit.

To deny you are
>involved, or that you aren't either of these two individuals is silly.
>
>And all of this vendetta you willingly participated in it while
>conveniently hiding behind a series of anonymous nyms.
>
>
>:>>:>Then you went off on some bullshit rage that had not a damn thing to do with
>:>>me.
>:>>
>:>>Cite.
>:>
>:>I already have, you stupid bitch! Look it up! AGAIN! Maybe you'll get it
>:>right someday... heh...
>
>The only nitwit who would allow himself to be under the jackboot of that
>crazy crackpot Karen Anderson is Billy Cmelak.
>
>Go away. If you leave this ends. If you stay it continues.
>
>

I'd be more than happy to go away. But, as long as you mention my name
in any newsgroup, I'm going to retaliate against your denigration and
lies posted about me.

Simple as that.

You want me out of your greasy skank hair, quit misidentifying me as
being Karen, Lumpy, Gaspar, and any other internet identity for whom
you don't know the name of the person posting via those aliases.

And, quit aligning my name with Karen's when you don't have a fucking
clue - a la gilmer gilturd - who is posting via any specific internet
alias.

To reiterate, "Simple as that."

And, since you choose to malign me via bullshit and lies, here's more
factual data about gilmer gilturd:

Gun Nut Gilmer

From: piratejohn@aol.comNOSPAM (PirateJohn)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Date: 13 Feb 2004 22:04:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Attacker DEAD: Man saves his life and wife's with a
[horrible]HANDGUN
Message-ID: <20040213170435.12710.00002...@mb-m29.aol.com>

I merely said that you were a coward. You need to read closer.
Second of all, there's no doubt in my mind that you are a wannabe.
I've had two instances in my life where I've had to hold a pistol on
someone, and they both talked big until they were looking down the
barrel of a gun.

- - -

From: billyrighteous@aol.comGOAWAY (Billy Righteous)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration
Date: 06 Jun 2003 18:03:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Matricula consular ID card are now illegal in Colorado!
Message-ID: <20030606140334.09907.00000...@mb-m26.aol.com>

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are. If you
ever put me in a position where I should reasonably fear for my life,
then you won't have to worry about going back to your cardboard
box of a home. You also won't be the first person that I didn't
like who I had to kill. Legally.

- - -

From: piratejohn@aol.comSPAMNOT (PirateJohn)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Date: 07 Nov 2002 17:55:58 GMT
Subject: Re: JB's a Democrat???
Message-ID: <20021107125558.04105.00000...@mb-cg.aol.com>

Hell, I'm about as liberal as they come and I regularly carry a 9mm
pistol and keep an AR-15 rifle in the house.

My motto is that with as many armed rightwing nutcases as there are in
the World there needs to be at least one armed liberal in each
neighborhood to keep those rednecks in line ;)

- - -

From: piratejohn@aol.comSPAMNOT (PirateJohn)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Date: 07 Mar 2001 01:28:52 GMT
Subject: Re: MadCow is a fake; was Re:NY Man Dies After Sucked Down
Drain
Message-ID: <20010306202852.23261.00000371@nso-cj.aol.com>

And, just for the record, Yours Truly has a North Carolina concealed
carry permit. Never felt the urge to get one in FL. And a H&K P7 in
the center console. And an AR-15 carbine as a boat rifle. My motto
is that with so many armed nutcase rightwingers out there that every
neighborhood needs to have an honest, stable, armed liberal. In my
neighborhood that's me.

- - -

From: piratejohn@aol.comSPAMNOT (PirateJohn)
Subject: Re: The Dark Side never rests!
Date: 1998/12/27
Message-ID: <19981227111259.25357.00002419@ng30.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 426178755
Newsgroups: alt.showbiz.gossip

Am I the only one that thinks that a lot of Rocky's (and other
assorted rightwinger's) hatred of The Prez. stems from Clinton's
tightening of firearms laws?? Let's face it - the thought of someone
like Rocky having access to a firearm is scary. Can we say 'keep him
away from the local McDonalds on his bad days'??

{'ol John... looking over at his AR-15 carbine - and glad that these
things are generally unobtainable by medicated people, like Rocky, in
California...}

--
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http://www.extirpirate.com/

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