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Group: alt.nuke.the.usa · Group Profile
Author: Sarah CzepielSarah Czepiel Date: Aug 11, 2008 18:45
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:00 -0700, "\"Team Karen\" member"
cocks.net> wrote:
:>"Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote in message
:>news:hg51a4lpva94rstbd2v7tmhlg6u4e20dhv@4ax.com
:>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:02:52 -0700, "\"Team Karen\" member"
:>> cocks.net> wrote:
:>>
:>>>>
:>>>> "Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote in message
:>>>> news:2ev0a45d9jqlc8ol77rkk8s74qemfi7b9o@4ax.com
:>>>>
:>>>>> All of this got started when Karen Anderson socking as Lumpy
:>>>>> displayed Ken's court record.
:>>>>
:>>>>
:>>>> Perhaps if you would accept that LUMPY is not and never has been
:>>>> "Karen Anderson"....
:>>
:>> Ok so tell me Lumpy's verifiable name.
:>
:>I think his last name begins with an "R". He recently posted an email
:>account and used "lumpyr". I know nothing of him personally...just what
:>he posts. Same as what you see. I don't know if there is a hospice at
:>Kingston. Did you check? How do you know who "Karen Anderson" is, btw?
Karen Anderson attacked me first. She saw John and I exchange a friendly
greeting after running into each other. John and I knew each other
previously from some of the aviation groups. Next thing I know the crazy
bitch is emailing me threats to " keep away from " her man. She was
using her Shooshoo nym at the time.
:>We've already told you you're going to get your
:>> shit thrown right back at you.
:>
:>I think it's the other way around, Sarah. You have thrown shit at
:>others for YEARS, but now you have picked the wrong people
I didn't pick on you. You came after me. Show me the first post where I
came after you unprovoked.
:> We are trying to deal with the FACTS and TRUTH about you and Ken, unlike what YOU are doing
:>with all your lies, forgeries and altered posts.
You have absolutely NO self-awareness do you?
Forgeries...............................................Example Number 1 :
From: "\"Sarah\" Ehrett"
Message-ID: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: eabc05f74b12d9a16f055bcc9d33558f
X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net
Forgeries................................................Example Number 2 :
From: "\"Sarah\" Ehrett"
Message-ID: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 966814452fa53309c86adb691a1a3b60
X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net
--
R.E.Gentry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dutton_Douglas
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
Forgeries................................................Example Number 3 :
From: Sarah Czepiel newsguy.com>
Message-ID: drn.newsguy.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host:
p93020000001006489df4d84588b25fc7ce1960e3d416dd9c.newsdawg.com
:>>>> One by one, you have dragged MANY people into ANTU who try to point
:>>>> out what you two are about. Nobody has lied or pulled the shit on
:>>>> you that YOU, Sarah et al, have done to us - lies, forgeries, lies,
:>>>> altering posts, lies, complaints to isps, lies, attempting to get
:>>>> accounts terminated, false accusations, phony pictures of an
:>>>> innocent woman put on the internet for ridicule, lies and more lies
:>>>> and MORE LIES. You STARTED this and we will finish it.
:>>
:>> You're a bunch of anonymous nyms blubbering threats on usenet.
:>
:>No. The THREATS come from you and Ken. Contacting police departments,
:>twisting facts, altering posts, making serious false claims which you
:>can't prove, etc.
You have absolutely NO self-awareness do you?
THREATS...................................................Example Number 1:
From: Lumpy gmail.com>
Message-ID: <521abaf1-f728-46d4-a22d-7c1f20e8b452
Every tiime I see a KenCrim piling out of his big tank and larding his
ass up to the WalMart or whatever, I feel like going up to him and
throwing a punch straight into his windpipe.
THREATS...................................................Example Number 2:
From: Lumpy gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Ken, why do you continue to use the Sarah Czepiel stolen identity?
Since everyone here knows it's you, and it costs you nothing, why not
just retire the Sarah fraud and post as your sterling self?
I've arranged to have you video'd during your arrival for the court
appearance on that ticket coming up on the 17th. You won't see it
being done, but the individual will be in the courtroom and will
report. hehh. $125.00. I used to spend that at the Met Grill for
lunch on a slow day.
THREATS...................................................Example Number 3:
From: President Lumpy gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e53814e-0b24-4525-85ae-20bba5cb1995
I'm turning you in for fraudulent use of Disabled Person's tags.
THREATS...................................................Example Number 4:
From: Lumpy PotatoHead gmail.com>
Message-ID:
d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
I've decided against posting kencrim's military "career" on a
website.
THREATS....................................................Example Number 5
From: Jose Gaspar newsguy.com>
Message-ID: drn.newsguy.com>
*If* you knew who my girlfriend was and you called her a slut and a whore,
you would be an instant blood donor...
THREATS....................................................Example Number 6
From: Jose Gaspar newsguy.com>
Message-ID: drn.newsguy.com>
It wasn't an empty threat you fool!
I'm not playing games, Ken... You don't know who you're fucking with.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
:>> If Gilmer's web page is wrong then why haven't you gotten it taken
:>> down?
:>
:>When did you last get a webpage taken down? Show us on that page who to
:>contact and complain to. Go to the home page and read that the author
:>has everything copyrighted and claims someone else's photos as HIS? He
:>lifted a photo of Cmelak from his HS webpage and now claims copyright of
:>it. Who do we complain to?
If it's so grievous to you hire an attorney. I guess your " concern" for
Karen doesn't extend to spending any of your own money.
:>If Karen Anderson isn't linked to you then what do you care in
:>> the first place?
:>
:>Some people care about TRUTH and want to take down an evil person (in
:>real life) like Gilmer.
You just don't care enough to put your money where your mouth is. Imagine
the publicity and free legal advice you could generate if you took Karen's
case to the media...." Crackpot Bremerton Woman Regrets Sending Strange Men
Naked Pictures of Herself." Surely some sympathetic attorney will take
that on a pro bono basis.
:>We don't have to "know" Karen in person to see the injustice being done year after
:>year to her. She does have several serious health issues and she is almost 70 years old.
:> She did accept Gilmer's offers of support and claims of friendship when hit with a couple of personal :>tragedies at the same time. She didn't realize he had an "agenda" that included her.
Karen doesn't have a pot to piss in. Karen is basically a gold digger
who went looking for some guy to support her.
:>Do you personally know everybody you ATTACK?
The real answer you want is : I wouldn't defend people on usenet to the
extent you have if I didn't know them personally.
:> Not one person involved in any of this defense of Karen has ever met her or set eyes on
:>her in person (including Gilmer who stood her up and missed seeing her
:>when he ambushed her at her motel the night before they were to meet for
:>lunch). That has nothing to do with feeling it is the RIGHT thing to
:>take her side when the facts and truth become obvious in various ways.
:>Some people who used to support Gilmer have come over to Karen's side
:>when they saw the light. Her support is coming from many states around
:>the country and even on another continent
You're admitting all the anti-Gilmer folks on the ngs are involved in
harassing Ken and I? Like Bob Feigel for instance? And Harry Krause?
:>and if she'd put up her website with some of Gilmer's key emails to her, there'd be more
:>support.
You seem to have spare time on your hands. Why don't you help out the
dried up old cunt and put up a website for her?
:>I've heard he mentioned you and his opinion of what you do on
:>Usenet. Wouldn't you like to read that?
Sure. Post it here with full headers.
:>>I've never met PJ in person but both Ken and I have spoken with him on several
:>>occasions. He's not hiding who he is, nor is he hiding his website.
:>
:>Why should he when you and Ken promote it more than he ever did himself?
:>He leaves it up now for the sole purpose of you making use of it to do
:>some of his dirty work for him. Enablers you both are and that makes
:>you as filthy as he is. You don't even CARE if it is true
PJ has said Karen Anderson sent him beavershot photos.
His website has those photos on it. Cmelak admitted it was a mistake for
Karen to have sent them.
PJ has said Karen has stalked him and his girlfriend. His website has
pictures taken by Karen and sent to him showing PJ outside is place of
employment and showing his home. There is a scan of a Jacksonville PD
report for KA stalking PJ on the website.
Karen and Cmelak, both under numerous nyms have posted personal details on
PJ and his girlfriend, including court records, property address info, etc.
EXACTLY the same stuff LUMPY, Jose Gaspar,et al have posted on Ken and
myself.
:>and then you post that picture of that poor lady you CLAIM is Karen Anderson
You claimed that photo was photoshopped. Why would you do that if it
wasn't your Karen Anderson? Look for yourself. She's wearing a name
tag that says " Karen Anderson".
http://www.efanzines.com/EK/eI26/Karen-Anderson.jpg
:> and ridicule her. You should be arrested for doing that to her. What has
:>she ever done to you to deserve what you and Ken are doing to her?
:>Maybe her name IS "Karen Anderson".
You keep telling everyone what should happen to us but you do nothing
yourself. Call the police if you're so offended.
:>See why she's a fool for ever letting her real name get onto the internet?
Karen Anderson was a FOOL for sending people nasty naked pictures of
herself.
:>You're so terrified of anyone knowing what even your
:>> voice sounds like.
:>
:>You aren't to be TRUSTED. Who knows what you would do with a recorded
:>voice and a revealed phone number of the caller?
Such paranoia. What would anyone do with the voice of a nym? Except to
know it's a female when the nym claims to be a male perhaps.
:>Nobody in their right
:>mind DEMANDS and pesters people to PHONE them like you do,
:>Sarah....especially on the Internet.
No body DEMANDS and pesters people about who they really are except for you
anonymous nyms. You want to know who I am, let's talk.
:>Did it ever occur to you that there are people on Usenet who are deaf or
:>have a serious hearing problem? They don't/can't communicate about
:>important things on the telephone. They do it in writing. Or they
:>don't want to spend money for long-distance charges or give out their
:>unlisted/unpublished phone number to someone like you who would plaster
:>it all over Usenet. Why don't YOU make some phone calls?
Ok. Give me a phone number and a date and time when you can be reached.
:>Or why don't you simply email or write a paper letter to people you want to phone
:>you?
Ok. Email me your name and address and I'll send you a letter.
:> I'll bet you know how to do that and obtain addresses, too.
Tell everyone how we'd obtain an address for " Lumpy".
:>While you hide in the shadows, PJ, Ken and myself are here, we're real, and our
:>posts and our histories can be traced back to who we are.
:>
:>LOL....and you squeal like a stuck pig when Jose has been doing just
:>that.
Ken and I didn't put court records on the internet. We didn't put Ken's
property information on the internet.
Lumpy and Jose nyms did that and that is the definition of malicious
stalking.
:>And Gilmer has whined for years about being "stalked" when he
:>freely posts ALL his personal data on the Internet, including 12,000
:>private photos. Hoodoo isn't making up all the information he posts
:>about Gilmer; he has gleaned it right off the Internet put there by
:>Gilmer's own fingers.
Gilmer has been stalked. He has pictures on the website to prove it.
Gilmer doesn't put his court records on the internet. Gilmer doesn't put
his girlfriends business records on the internet. Cmelak has a 300 line
sig file that he attaches and it's proof positive of his stalking
activities.
:>Perhaps a narcissist like him should "hide in the shadows" a bit more than he has
:>when he has so much dirty laundry.
:>
:>Sarah, I think if you could trace back Karen Anderson's "history" and
:>find out who she REALLY is (and who she is NOT), you would be shocked.
:>Why she keeps all that a secret on Usenet certainly hasn't been to her
:>benefit and well-being. After trusting Gilmer with some pictures and
:>personal information,
Another admittance that the pictures are real. Cmelak admitted as much a
long time ago and agreed it was a mistake on Karen's part to have sent
them.
:>he used it ALL against her and added copious lies
:>to a few truths she supplied in better times.
He didn't lie about her stalking him. The pictures are there. He didn't
lie about contacting the Police about her stalking activities. Scans of
the Police Report are on the website. He didn't lie about contacting the
Bremerton PD about Karen.
:>Why risk anything more
:>like that to happen at the hands of someone like you and Ken by
:>revealing any further private information(?), I suppose. She could put
:>a thousand of his emails to her on a website and he'd claim they ALL
:>were altered, including the headers. Why bother? Better to just give
:>them to the police departments to keep on file. That is what I have
:>heard that she has done.
Wonderful. See if you can get a copy of the Police Report, I'd like to
read it. If you can't do that then give me the details - date, which PD
and a case number, and the PO who took the report. I'll verify it and if
you're telling the truth I'll never mention her again AND I will write a
formal apology to Karen Anderson on usenet PLUS I will send her a letter of
apology by Registered US Mail. Deal?
:>You want people to believe the idiotic nonsense
:>> of a bunch of anonymous nyms and not the people who you can pick up
:>> and phone and speak with.
:>
:>Look at that in reverse. Why don't you pick up the phone or email
:>Karen?
Ok. Give me her phone number. I'd be happy to call her.
:>Why can't you understand that few people (but the likes of PJ who is
:>using you for his purposes) want to speak to you? And pay for the call
:>besides.
I'll pay for the call to Karen. What's her number?
It
:>doesn't matter if you are one or two, male or female or hermaphrodite.
:>The damage you have done to other people's REAL LIFE reputations can't
:>be fixed.
Who's REAL LIFE reputations?
That's actionable. What have you done about it?
Do you think that speaking to you on the phone is somehow
:>going to ERASE what you've done, the trouble you have caused not only on
:>Usenet but in actual lives?
Prove damages. Let's see what you've got.
You have absolutely NO credibility,
:>Sarah...and Ken. Nobody is going to trust you an inch. Why should
:>anybody give you any more personal information so you can use it against
:>them, possibly cause real pain or fear in their actual lives? Your game
:>is to cause fear in others, to humiliate and ridicule them with lies or
:>revealing personal information. You delight in ridiculing anybody who
:>is disabled or has cancer. You are inhumane and abusive. Nobody wants
:>to TALK to you on the phone, for God's sake....
You just suggested that I call Karen. I'd be happy to call Karen. Give
me a number where she can be reached. Maybe it's time to make amends.
:>Otherwise we're going to believe
:>> the words and photographic evidence sitting on a clearly traceable
:>> website that you can't take down.
:>
:>You are going to believe what you WANT to.
Not at all. I'm giving any of you a chance to come out from the shadows
and speak with me. Go stand in a phone booth and call me. Go to a
public library and call me from there. CALL COLLECT. Or post the number
here and a time you'll be there. I'll pay for the call. How is hearing
your voice going to trace you or track you down to anyone?
:>It wouldn't matter if you found out Karen was a nun or that she might be dead now. You will
:>believe exactly what you WANT to, the truth and facts be damned.
I believe pictures and I believe Cmelak when he said it was a mistake for
Karen to have sent PJ the pictures. I believe Police Reports.
Which
:>indicates you are dull and stupid and as low as pig shit....just like
:>your good friend, PirateJohn Gilmer. I hope he wants to borrow some
:>money from you and sweet-talks you till your panties are wet. LOL
Oh my god. You just revealed Karen's panties got wet over PJ.
:>THIS JUST IN (from someone who did try to get Karen's page on Gilmer's
:>site taken down):
:>
:>"If google and aol would enforce their terms of service - which I've
:>also cited within my reports - he wouldn't be able to continue
:>transmitting abuse for years as he has been doing."
Hoist on your own petard, eh nyms. ;)
:>What say you, SaraH? We wait with "baited breathe". ;) ;) ;)
Here's a hint numbnutz: AOL doesn't support newsgroups. Google has
throwaway accounts. And neither have anything to do with his website.
Looks like he's just doing to you what you try to do with everyone else.
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