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Group: alt.nuke.the.usa · Group Profile
Author: Greg Procter
Date: Jun 9, 2007 01:58

America the Beautiful wrote:
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> Greg Procter wrote:
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>> America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>Seth Hammond wrote:
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>>>>"America the Beautiful" wrote in message
>>>>news:QS55i.71$tS3.25@newsfe12.lga...
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>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Seth Hammond wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Topp@Work" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kent Finnell" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why bother? Just go to a bar, stand back, and let them start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gunfights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know about Arizona, but being armed in a bar or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>restaurant that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>serves beer or alcohol for on site consumption in Tennessee is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In PA it's legal. Being in a place that serves alcohol has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nothing to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with firearms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Consuming, well, that's another matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guns in bars are illegal in Arizona but ask any bartender how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>many guns he's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever held for customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CCW means 'carry concealed weapon'. Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No it doesn't - _you_ mean 'carry concealed weapon' when you write
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"CCW".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It may well mean something entirely different to your readers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As ever, it's better to have and not need than need and not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>More Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, I always carry my lathe/mill in my briefcase!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You have a lathe? I've been looking for one for a long time. I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>started playing with my scroll saw again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have several - precise number not defined.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So you're a collector of junk machining equipment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, I started with a top quality European lathe (1978) - I wore it
>>>>>>>>>>out
>>>>>>>>>>for precision work but it still does for light rough work and has a
>>>>>>>>>>nice
>>>>>>>>>>jigsaw attachment.
>>>>>>>>>>As I had lots of accessories I bought the latest model (around 1990)
>>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>the precision work replacement. I picked up the milling machine
>>>>>>>>>>version
>>>>>>>>>>soon after. I found that to be too light for the work I needed to do
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>bought a bigger mill. Meanwhile the Euro lathes have priced themselves
>>>>>>>>>>off the market, being 5-10 times the price of the Chinese imports.
>>>>>>>>>>Last
>>>>>>>>>>month I picked up a junk ($700-) big version of my small lathes. It's
>>>>>>>>>>cleaned up nicely and the small 3 and 4 jaw chucks etc all are
>>>>>>>>>>interchangable.
>>>>>>>>>>I admit I sort of cornered myself buying European but it was nearly 30
>>>>>>>>>>years ago and I've made a lot of specialist tooling in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yurp makes a lot of good tools. I have a few.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We're a long way from Europe and their costs have risen astronomically
>>>>>>>>since 1978.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They've gone down over here. Maybe they just don't like you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I buy direct, at European prices less sales tax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Anyway, it's nice (and quick) to have the lathes set up for the
>>>>>>>>>>different tasks - it's so annoying when you have one set for a
>>>>>>>>>>production run and someone wants a little job done!
>>>>>>>>>>Right now I'm chasing a CNC mill and a CNC lathe would be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>There's a few other machine tools, scroll saws, wood lathe etc in the
>>>>>>>>>>garage - were you keeping count?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Can you make salad bowls? I'm looking for a set of 8 of turned salad
>>>>>>>>>bowls for the table and the big serving bowl. Of course I'll pay you
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>for shipping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've never tried - give me a few weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let me know. It'll be a nice project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Aww hell Chris, I'm off to see the architect for the house in half an
>>>>>>hour. Will visit the garage/shed builder on the way home, and the vet,
>>>>>>and the engineering supply co. Then there's the gallery to organise and
>>>>>>then the workshop to set up - I need another interesting project like
>>>>>>the hole in your head.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh well... It would have been fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That was Groggy Talk for 'I don't really have a lathe, and if I did I
>>>>wouldn't know how to use it'.
>>>
>>>Yeah, that's what I got out of it.
>>
>>
>> No wonder you're both stupid and ignorant.
>
> But you bailed out on a simple bowl project. One that would have paid
> you more money then you've made last month. At least $50.

I've got a workshop, garage, house and landscaping to manage the
construction of, I've got paintings to paint, a gallery to develop,
electronics and engineering projects to work through, an acre of land to
maintain, a shipment of Omaru stone to sculpt ... Wood turning comes
after the pottery and a 200,000 year old kauri slab to make a dining
room table - I'll do your bowl then.
Stop whining.
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