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> Kent Finnell wrote:
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>>>Kent Finnell wrote:
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>>>>>Chris Morton wrote:
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>>>>>>In article <46496542$0$10729$db0fefd9@
news.zen.co.uk>, nick says...
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>>>>>>>"Kent Finnell"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm not afraid, I'm prepared. FWIW, I don't care if you want to be
>>>>>>>>a victim, but I choose not to be one.
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>>>>>>>Don't you get sick of living in fear?
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>>>>>>Don't you get sick of treating life as some kind of S&M scene?
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>>>>>A guy that supports the unconditional passing out of handguns to
>>>>>children knows jack shit about life.
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>>>>Now who would support such an idea? Not Chris, not I. As a matter of
>>>>fact, I cannot think of any of the regular 2nd Amendment supporters here
>>>>has every suggested such an idea. Do supply verifiable proof of your
>>>>wild assertion.
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>>>If you are not in support of proper responsible gun control, then you
>>>support what's going on right now.
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>> Dodging the question is typical of you and all the other anti-freedom
>> elitists.
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> What anti freedoms?
If there is a right to life, then there must be a right to self-defense, one
which you would deny to millions because of your own prejudices.
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>> Define "proper responsible gun control", preferably something that
>> doesn't violate the standard interpretation of an individual right to
>> keep and bear arms.
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> What does handgun control have to do with your right to bear arms?
> Nothing. What makes you think the second amendment states you have the
> right to carry concealed weapons?
What makes you think it doesn't? What special knowledge do you possess that
makes you think otherwise?
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>> Remember that there are 60 million guns owners in the U.S owning at least
>> 260 million guns. They have a remarkable safety record with about 1,000
>> accidental deaths attributed to firearms.
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> Is that guns or more specifically handguns?
About 60%% are handguns. That percentage changes according to the annual
sales, but 60%% is generally accepted.
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>> The 12-13,000 homicides each year are mostly bad guys killing other bad
>> guys,
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> With handguns.
Mostly, but not exclusively.
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>> at least 70%% according to the Chicago PD.
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> That leaves 3900 innocent people and 9100 dead thugs without trial shot
> mostly by handguns.
Gee, there's another law that the thugs ignore. "Hey, Bubba, should we give
Frankie Boy a trial?" "WTF is a trial, Joey? Just off the sumbitch."
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>> Now no murder is excusable, but you and others like you want to
>> essentially disarm millions because of the bad acts of very few.
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> That figure doesn't mention the maiming and wounding figures. Whys that?
Because it wasn't part of the discussion? FWIW, about 80,000 annually.
Obviously very few (attempted) suicides in that number. Now that includes
those wounded during a DGU, like the punk who was shot in the arm by a store
owner as he fled the scene during a gun battle.
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>> Remember that the "reasonable gun control" of Canada cost Canadian
>> taxpayers over 2 billion dollars and the scheme still isn't complete.
>> And Australia's gun buy-back has cost the taxpayers there a comparable
>> amount.
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> but you can see that other countries see a problem, but not you.
Yeah, they saw A PERCEIVED problem and tried to fix it by throwing money at
it.
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>> And before you tell me to move again, I'll do it if a) you can tell me
>> where I will be completely safe and b) pay for the move yourself.
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> I don't care if you move or not, I just don't want your firearms winding
> up in the wrong hands.
The odds of my firearms winding up in the wrong hands are slim and none,
along the lines of taking them from my cold dead hands. (And I not
referring to the government.)
> And I don't want my guns completely taken away because of your
> irresponsible behavior.
Ah, now we get now to the nitty gritty. It's all about YOU, nothing to do
with crime, murder, accidents, suicides, injuries ... just YOU and YOUR
guns.
My irresponsible behavior? Do you have any proof of any irresponsible
behavior on my part? I'll answer that myself. No, you don't.
Now, since you keep dodging the question, I'll repeat the original question.
You seem to have an attention deficit problem:
Define "proper responsible gun control", preferably something
that doesn't violate the standard interpretation of an individual right to
keep and bear arms.
I know that a straight answer isn't in you, (un)America.
--
"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended
victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police,
and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he
must be taught to fear is his victim."
. . Jeff Cooper (1920-2006)
--
Kent Finnell, from the Music City, USA
