> mbl* wrote:

>> mbl* wrote:
>>

>>> Further the this post, and in order to try to rationalize the actions
>>> of the UN, Israelis, Lebanese, Hezbollah, so that all these accusation
>>> that are thrown about add up and make sense. I will post the following
>>> UN report that shows that in this tragic accident, that the UN
>>> Commanders, all the way to the top, i.e. Kofi Anan have to answer some
>>> pertinent questions. Did they make an error of judgement, or did they
>>> place their staff at unnecessary risks for some selfish reasons?
>>>
>>> "Kofi Annan Could Have Ordered Peacekeepers to Leave
>>> By Julie Stahl
>>> CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief
>>> July 26, 2006
>>>
>>> Haifa, Israel (CNSNews.com) - The four United Nations peacekeepers
>>> killed in an Israeli attack on their outpost were required to stay at
>>> that post "until they were ordered by the [U.N.] secretary general to
>>> withdraw," said a member of the United Nations Truce Supervision
>>> Organization on Wednesday.
>>>
>>> But the peacekeepers apparently never received such an order, despite
>>> the fierce cross-border fighting that erupted in southern Lebanon two
>>> weeks ago.
>>>
>>> The four peacekeepers -- from China, Austria, Canada and Finland -- had
>>> taken security precautions and were in a shelter under their bunker
>>> when they were killed, said Wicki Dieter, the chief plans officer for
>>> the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO).
>>>
>>> (UNTSO is an unarmed U.N. body whose "observer" mandate dates from
>>> 1948. By contrast, UNIFIL -- the United Nations Interim Force in
>>> Lebanon -- was created in 1978 to "restore the international peace and
>>> security" in southern Lebanon.)
>>>
>>> According to Dieter, it's still not clear exactly what happened at the
>>> UNTSO outpost, which, according to the BBC, had been shelled by Israeli
>>> forces at least 14 times before Tuesday's deadly attack.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan said he was "shocked and
>>> deeply distressed" at the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the
>>> outpost.
>>>
>>> "This co-ordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established
>>> and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal
>>> assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N.
>>> positions would be spared Israeli fire," Annan was quoted as saying.
>>>
>>> Anan -- and China -- were among the first to condemn what Israel has
>>> called an unintended attack. They are demanding an investigation.
>>>
>>> Neither Annan nor Israel has said anything about why the unarmed
>>> peacekeepers -- who were supposed to be monitoring a ceasefire -- were
>>> left in what's become a war zone. Israeli officials flatly refused
>>> comment about that on Wednesday.
>>>
>>> 'Deep regret'
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, and again on Wednesday, Israel expressed "deep regret" for
>>> bombing the U.N. bunker.
>>>
>>> "Israel does not target UN staff, and since the beginning of the
>>> conflict, Israel has deployed all its efforts to ensure the safety of
>>> those staff in the region," said a statement released by the Israeli
>>> Foreign Ministry.
>>>
>>> Miri Eisen, an Israeli government spokesman, said on Wednesday that
>>> Ehud Olmert "spoke to Kofi Annan this morning and told him that there
>>> would be an in-depth inquiry into how this happened."
>>>
>>> Israel does not target the U.N. or civilians, Israeli government
>>> spokesman Eisen told Fox & Friends on Wednesday. "It was a very sad and
>>> regretful mistake, and we will do our utmost to inquire into how this
>>> happened," she said.
>>>
>>> Further complicating the situation is the rocky relationship between
>>> Israel and the United Nations.
>>>
>>> Israel has long complained about the failure of the United Nations
>>> peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon, accusing some peacekeepers of
>>> siding with Israel's enemies.
>>>
>>> In Oct. 2000, three Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Hizballah in a
>>> cross-border ambush that happened under the noses of United Nations
>>> peacekeepers.
>>>
>>> And many Israelis harbor a deep distrust of the U.N. in general, given
>>> years of anti-Israeli resolutions, including the controversial 1975
>>> "Zionism equals racism" resolution (see related story).
>>>
>>> More rockets
>>>
>>> As Israel tries to manage fallout over the U.N. peacekeeper deaths,
>>> Katyusha and Kassam rockets continued to fall in northern and southern
>>> Israel on Wednesday. And the fierce fighting continued in southern
>>> Lebanon.
>>>
>>> The Israeli army said it had surrounded the Hizballah "capital" of Bint
>>> Jbail on Wednesday, and a number of Israeli soldiers reportedly were
>>> wounded in the fighting to take the town.
>>>
>>> Bint Jbail is about two miles inside of Lebanon, and Israel's effort to
>>> capture it has been going on since the weekend.
>>>
>>> A United Nations spokesman was quoted as saying that Israeli troops had
>>> entered the town on Tuesday, but Hizballah leader Sheikh Hassan
>>> Nasrallah denied that was the case.
>>>
>>> Nasrallah, in a televised address, said that Hizballah is about to
>>> enter a "new phase in the confrontation, the phase of [hitting] beyond
>>> Haifa."
>>>
>>> Israeli officials have said they believe Nasrallah has missiles capable
>>> of reaching Tel Aviv and even beyond.
>>>
>>> Last week, the Israeli Air Force demolished a truck carrying at least
>>> 10 Iranian-made, long-range rockets.
>>>
>>> By mid-morning warning sirens were already sounding in Haifa, once
>>> again forcing residents to take cover. At least 36 Hizballah-fired
>>> rockets crashed into Israel by mid-morning, injuring several people.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 101 rockets were fired at Israel, killing one teenage Arab
>>> girl and wounding more than 20 Israelis.
>>>
>>> Eighteen Israeli civilians have been killed as a result of rocket
>>> attacks and at least 24 soldiers have been killed in battle.
>>>
>>> In Lebanon, nearly 400 people have been killed. It is not clear how
>>> many of them are Hizballah fighters. Although it appears that the
>>> majority of the casualties are civilian, Israel has gone to great
>>> lengths to warn civilians to flee areas that it plans to target."
>>>

>> I hope this will help summarize the larger picture about Lebanon, and
>> the role of the UN Observers-Post#25, A Unifil report-post#30,
>> including views of the accidental deaths of 4 UN Observers a Unifil
>> report-post#36, and what I reiterate here:
>>
>> "On April 26, 2005, after 29 years of military action in Lebanon, the
>> last Syrian troops left Lebanon. Syrian military and intelligence
>> facilities, after the destruction of sensitive documents or the
>> transportation of logistical material, were turned over to Lebanese
>> counterparts. This action left the Lebanese government as the main
>> violator of the resolution due to its refusal to dismantle the
>> pro-Syrian Palestinian and Hezbollah militias."
>>
>> The Lebanese government failed to fulfill UN Security Council
>> Resolution 1559, and The UN Observers allowed or overlooked the
>> rearming of the Hezbollah over several years. The UN took no action or
>> make any recommendations when they could openly observe the build up of
>> Katyusha rockets in Lebanon. These were obviously not defensive weapons
>> and were supplied by Syria (who were just ousted in 2005, and possibly
>> assisted and encouraged by Iran. What did the UN do about stopping this
>> re-armament of Hezbollah, when they were there to observe the
>> dismantling of Hezbollah? So the UN was in fact doing nothing about the
>> building crisis, and must have been fully aware of what was going on.
>>
>> Gawd! All I can say is that if you cannot see or perceive what is going
>> on you must be blind or thoroughly prejudiced! Much of the Lebanese
>> conflict leads back to Kofi Anan's Office. The blame lies with the
>> United Nations! The next question is How? and Why? I am sure if there
>> is a proper investigation, many heads will roll, and some VIP's
>> disgraced.
>>
>> The Lebanese government, allowed it to happen under their very noses
>> when they had already agreed to UN Council Resolution 1559. A
>> Resolution to ensure the survival of a Lebanese Democracy. The
>> complicity between the Lebanese Government and Hezbollah is as obvious
>> as Night follows Day. So they screamed "Blue Murder" when their
>> infra-structure was damaged, to prevent Hezbollah from getting supplies
>> and have an effective command structure. The Lebanese government was
>> just as instrumental and responsible in creating conditions for the
>> destruction of their own cities as the Hezbollah. But they are passing
>> the blame, characteristic of middle eastern psychology, and the public
>> are gullible because that is what they want to hear.
>>
>> There will be many entrenched views that will disagree with my posts,
>> so be it! Each is free to their own opinions as you see it!

>
> After reading all your posts, it's more reason for me to say; if Israel
> were not created after WWII in the land where they are today, there
> wouldn't be any trouble in the Middle East. If there were trouble,
> people around the world wouldn't care. The problem in the region IS
> Israel. Take Israel out, there wouldn't be any problem.
>

>>>
>>>
>>> mbl* wrote:
>>>

>>>> For skeptics, here is a full report from Unifil,
>>>>
>>>> "UNITED NATIONS INTERIM FORCE IN LEBANON
>>>> (UNIFIL)
>>>> Naqoura,
>>>> 27 July 2006
>>>> PRESS RELEASE
>>>> Heavy exchanges of fire continued with the same intensity along the
>>>> length
>>>> of the Blue Line in the past 24 hours. Hezbollah continued to fire
>>>> rockets
>>>> from various locations, and the IDF continued intensive shelling and
>>>> aerial
>>>> bombardment of the south. The IDF has maintained their presence inside
>>>> Lebanese territory in the area of Marun Al Ras, Bint Jubayl and Yarun
>>>> in the
>>>> central sector. Intensive fighting in these areas, as well as the
>>>> shelling of the
>>>> area of Aytarun, and the aerial bombardment of the areas of At Tiri and
>>>> Brashit north of Bint Jubayl was reported yesterday. This morning,
>>>> sporadic
>>>> fighting was reported in Bint Jubayl and Marun Al Ras, and intensive
>>>> shelling
>>>> of the area of At Tiri. There are a number of civilians who are still
>>>> stranded in
>>>> these towns and caught in the crossfire.
>>>> There were three incidents of firing close to UN positions in the last
>>>> 24 hours
>>>> from the Israeli side. It was also reported that Hezbollah fired from
>>>> the
>>>> vicinity of four UN positions at Marwahin, Alma Ash Shab, Brashit, and
>>>> At
>>>> Tiri. The UNIFIL Engineering Contingent from China successfully
>>>> disposed of
>>>> one mortar bomb inside the Ghanaian battalion position, in the area of
>>>> Marwahin. All UNIFIL positions in the area of operation remain
>>>> permanently
>>>> occupied and maintained by the troops. A number of positions were
>>>> resupplied
>>>> yesterday, and additional supply convoys to forward positions are
>>>> planned for today. UNIFIL suspended last night a search operation to
>>>> recover
>>>> the mortal remains of the military observers killed in aerial
>>>> bombardment on
>>>> 25 July at the patrol base of the Observer Group Lebanon (OGL) in
>>>> Khiyam.
>>>> Heavy engineering equipment is required to resume the search for the
>>>> fourth
>>>> observer.
>>>> Over 600 civilians from Naqoura, Alma Ash Shab, and other neighboring
>>>> villages were sheltered inside the UNIFIL Headquarters in Naqoura
>>>> yesterday,
>>>> and provided with food and water. UNIFIL also provided humanitarian
>>>> escorts
>>>> to a group of 250 of them yesterday from Naqoura to Tyre, and to
>>>> another
>>>> group of around 300 this morning. Around 100 civilians still remain in
>>>> the
>>>> UNIFIL compound. The ICRC distributed this morning some food to UNIFIL
>>>> in
>>>> Naqoura for the remaining group. UNIFIL hospital in Naqoura provided
>>>> treatment for 39 civilians.
>>>> Approximately 1000 local civilians from Alma Ash Shab, Al Bustan,
>>>> Yarin, Al
>>>> Duharya, and other neighboring villages, were sheltered inside a UNIFIL
>>>> position of the Ghanaian battalion in the area of Al Duharya at noon
>>>> yesterday. Around 670 of them left the position for Tyre later in the
>>>> afternoon. A group of 330 remained inside the position, and UNIFIL will
>>>> attempt to provide a humanitarian escort and transportation for them to
>>>> Tyre
>>>> today. There were other reports of convoys of civilian cars moving from
>>>> these
>>>> areas in the direction of Tyre.
>>>> UNIFIL evacuated some 176 UN dependents and foreign nationals from the
>>>> country on board a French ship which delivered supplies to UNIFIL in
>>>> Naqoura yesterday."
>>>> mbl* wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> It just proves that you do not read what others post like #25 by mbl
>>>>> that explains the problems in the region.
>>>>> rst0wxyz@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> Ned Viking wrote:

>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060726/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_un_observers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This proves Israel's attacks on the UN were deliberate. The most
>>>>>>> recent UN people killed were Chinese, Austrian, Canadian, and Finnish.
>>>>>>> I encourage those four countries (and all other countries) to set up
>>>>>>> concentration camps and put all Zionists there, then kill at least 10
>>>>>>> of the Zionists each time Israel kills .

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why only 10? Why not wipe out Israel altogether? Israel has been the
>>>>>> problem from the very beginning. Without Israel, there will be no
>>>>>> trouble in the Middle East, and if there were trouble, no one would
>>>>>> care. The world opinion would be; "let them wipe each other out".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Negative reinforcement is the
>>>>>>> only way to keep Ashkenazim in line. I know Finland has at least one
>>>>>>> resident who would agree with a policy to put the "kikes" in
>>>>>>> concentration camps!