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Group: alt.nuke.the.usa · Group Profile
Author: Seth Hammond
Date: Feb 24, 2008 09:23

"Greg Procter" ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:47BDE087.C1F6B1D@ihug.co.nz...
> Seth Hammond wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Witmarsh" wrote in message
>> news:mrskr3tvhgejene3ikd66ie736qpks63fk@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:31:24 GMT, Buck Mulligan
>>> comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In talk.politics.guns Dave Witmarsh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:59:01 -0800, Buck Mulligan
>>>>>comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In talk.politics.guns Dave Witmarsh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Worried they'll take the guns away?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Like they did you? No, quite frankly! LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They did? Oh, that's right, you swallow the NRA gunloons lies hook
>>>>>>>line and sinker, don't you Jethro :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1771842.htm
>>>>>>Your government told you it was a "forced buyback." The rest of the
>>>>>>world calls that "confiscation."
>>>>>
>>>>>" ...study, prepared by Australian pro-gun lobbyists ..." Now there's
>>>>>a surprise, lol. Guess who was actually funding that study. Here's a
>>>>>hint, it wasn't anyone in Australia, and it's the organisation whose
>>>>>propaganda you swallow hook line and sinker. Give up?
>>>>
>>>>So you're claiming there was no buyback, it was all a gun lobby spoof,
>>>>huh?
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>> So you're saying that Australians had all their guns "confiscated",
>>> huh?
>>>
>>> LOL
>>
>> 1,458 asstrailer members of the National Rifle Association are listed
>> here.
>> Too bad they have no rifles innit:
>>
>> http://www.nraa.com.au/idchange
>
>
> Why would you stupidly imagine that Australians don't have rifles???

It may have something to do with their horrid gun confiscation.

Going Down, Down Under
by GOA founder Sen. H. L. Richardson, (Retired)
Let's study the horror of what's happening to our Australian, English,
Canadian and South African gun owning friends. The Aussies, like us, are a
gun owning population; or should we say, were. The Australian continent is a
vast, arid land, populated with only 19 million people. It also has an
abundance of varmints, a pest problem of major proportions. It is little
wonder that practically every rural house contained a firearm, used for the
control of these bothersome critters.

The crime rate in Australia has been historically low: 1.8 per
100,000. It is an isolated country with no borders for the illegal to slip
across. It has been rightfully referred to as a sleepy, peaceful land. That
is, until the leftist government implemented a draconian gun confiscation
policy.

For years, the Labor party [socialists] and the Liberals
[conservative] were closely balanced-- a six-percent swing one way or the
other could change their parliament. A small but vocal group of hard
leftists split off and formed the Australian Democrat Party. They held few
seats in Parliament; however, they have been mouthy, and the driving force
behind the anti-gun movement.

On April 28th 1996, a maniac shot 35 people in Port Arthur. The media
went ballistic, screaming about the evil of "assault" firearms. Australians
were shocked. Nothing like this had ever happened in sleepy, peaceful
Australia. The shrill cry and incessant anti-gun propaganda paid off and, in
just 12 days, Federal resolutions were passed and the states enacted them
into laws.

What did they enact? Did they just go after "ugly" guns, those
military look-alike assault weapons? Think again! They outlawed every
semi-auto, even those "pretty" duck guns, the Browning A5 and the Remington
1100's. They even struck down pump shotguns; the Winchester model 12 and the
Remington 870 are two examples. The law read "Any pump shotgun with a
magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less."

Do you own a Browning BAR rifle? Banned. How about a Winchester Model
100? Out of luck, all semi-auto hunting rifles were outlawed as well. They
didn't miss a one.

You may ask, "Surely they left 22's alone, didn't they?" Nope, the
criteria the government used was simple. If it's a semi-auto, it's gone. If
caught with one of these "illegal" firearms, the crime was considered
serious, punishable by multiple years in prison.

The Australian government offered to buy back all of the listed
firearms. They then imposed a 1%% tax on everybody to raise the money
necessary to secure the "illegal" firearms. The massive 500 million buy back
program was quickly, but poorly, implemented. Of the estimated 7 million
firearms, roughly 40%% are now prohibited. Close to 2.8 million firearms
should have been surrendered to authorities. Was it a success? Hardly. Less
than 25%%, or 640,000 weapons, were turned in.

Gun Control and left-wing politicians said great things about the new
law. A university of criminology professor stated, "It is probable that the
crime rate will drop by up to 20 percent."

Nothing of the sort happened, in fact just the opposite took place. In
1997, just 12 months after the new laws went into effect, across Australia
homicides jumped 3.2 percent, armed robberies were up a whopping 44 percent,
assaults up 8.6 and in the state of Victoria there was a 300 percent
increase in homicides. Prior to the new dictatorial anti-gun laws,
statistics showed a steady decrease in armed robberies with firearms; now,
there has been a dramatic increase in break-ins, especially against the
elderly.

In 1998, in the state of South Australia, robbery with a firearm
increased nearly 60 percent. In 1999, new figures reveal that the assault
rates in the state of NSW has risen almost 20 percent.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the crime rate for burglary in
America is now substantially less than Australia, Canada, and Britain. The
data from a comprehensive study from the University of Chicago [Lott,
Mustard] showed that in these same three countries, people were home almost
half of the time when the burglaries were committed.

In the US, it was less than 13%%. Fear of firearms in the American home
was the reason given.

Again, in Australia, Canada and Britain, all handguns were already
severely controlled. Failure to yearly re-register in a prompt manner could
bring law enforcement to the doorstep to confiscate the firearm.

Reasons must be given why anyone needs a license. The government lists
only 10 reasons for owning a firearm-- protection of self and family is not
considered a "reasonable" request!

Guns aren't the only things prohibited.

In 1998, a new law was passed outlawing an assortment of knives. The
fine for owning a classic Bowie knife? Up to $10,000 or two years in the
crow bar motel. Owning handcuffs is prohibited. Caught with one of these
items, the fine is up to $11,000 or up to 14 years in prison.

Hunting anywhere other than private property is now extremely
difficult, where one must have written permission by the owner. One has to
acquire a permit from government to hunt on government-controlled land. The
Australian government is under no obligation to honor hunting requests and
it is common for permits to be refused.

American hunters, especially those who hunt on western public lands--
take notice! Someday soon we will face the same problem on federal and state
lands.

The anti-gun movement is the creature of the most radical leftist
elements of the world wide socialist movement. The tactics are the same,
with only slight propaganda alterations to fit each country. It's not
surprising that the internationalist nose of the United Nations poked its
way into the gun issue. The Sport Shooters Association of Australia stated
that they had been "aware of a connection between the United Nations {UN}
and Australia's new so-called 'national' gun laws." Look no further than the
UN Security Council's pronouncements; they endorsed sweeping gun control
measures, including a ban on private ownership of assault rifles.

Secretary-General Kofi Annan called for ways to reduce the global
stockpile of some 500 million handguns, rifles, shotguns and assault
weapons.

We gun owners are not just fighting for our gun rights; we are
fighting for all our freedoms. The Second Amendment just happens to be the
linch-pin.
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