> America the Beautiful wrote:

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>> Greg Procter wrote:
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>>> America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>Seth Hammond wrote:
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>>>>>>"Greg Procter" ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46C0CE18.49FC7D97@ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Greg Procter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America the Beautiful wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Larry in AZ wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Waiving the right to remain silent, Sarah Czepiel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cox.net> said:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What the hell is that, pressboard, particleboard? Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fatso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any deck made from that will hold his 350+ lbs weight?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bill's deck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in RI built in 1985 is made from 2x10 joists with [ I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2x6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>decking, all pressure treated of course. The joists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>special
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ordered because they were 20 feet long. Talk about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lifting!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bill and I built it ourselves footings and all. Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his deck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>built long before I moved here but used similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>materials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like that crap Fatso plans on using.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Engles can't build. Everyone knows that. Only a decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ago, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>finally caught on to insulated hot water tanks in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All my best woodworking books are british. Too bad the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drain has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>caused all their master craftsmen to seek greener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pastures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>elsewhere.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It worked for us.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But you're blown insulation blows around in the wind...!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's why I'm having proper insulation in my new house!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>well, you know what's best. blown insulation is just one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>option.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not for my house - blown insulation is crap.

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>It's not crap, it's just not for your needs.

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The stuff settles in wall cavities and blows around in roof
>>>>>>>>>>>cavities.

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nope! But I will add it gets hung up on in-wall pipes, wires, and
>>>>>>>>>>cleats.

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If it didn't settle it would fill the cavity.
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Then don't use it. Stuff the walls with gum wrappers for all I
>>>>>>>>care.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's pretty much the only way to insulate the walls of old/existing
>>>>>>>buildings without removing the exterior or interior cladding.
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unless you're allowed to have U-F foam there.

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>One can buy it for DIY jobs but I'm not aware of it being offered by
>>>>>any
>>>>>insulation contractors.

>>>>
>>>>We can't even get it anymore.
>>>>
>>>>Urea-formaldehyde (UF) foam was used in homes during the 1970s and
>>>>early
>>>>1980s. It is no longer available for residential use because of
>>>>health-related concerns.
>>>>
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/265y53
>>>>
>>>>To further your ongoing free education...
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/ywog94
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>>>>As I'm building a new house it's not an issue.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you plan to insulate your walls?

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fiberglass Batts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>>>Will your house have a flat roof?

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No, hip roof, 25 degrees from memory. (no snow around here in
>>>>>Northland)

>>>>
>>>>What dopes the snow have to do with anything?

>>>
>>>
>>> One needs a steeper pitch angle in snow regions to stop the weight of
>>> snow buildup.

>>
>> A properly build roof can withstand a shitload of snow. I've built some
>> of my heaviest decks on flat roofs, and we get crippling blizzards here.
>> So far no problems.
>>
>> http://www.shawnryanhome.com/art/chrisflatroof.jpg
>> http://www.shawnryanhome.com/art/chrisflatroof2.jpg

>
> Sure, rooves can stand a fair bit of snow, but it's better if it's not
> left up there.