>
>Jose Gaspar wrote:

>>
>> In article <66eqk4F2jtaj0U1@mid.individual.net>, Seth Hammond says...

>>>
>>>
>>>"Greg Procter" ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>news:48022F41.9CDBB91E@ihug.co.nz...

>>>> Jose Gaspar wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> In article <4801D4B1.F3391B93@ihug.co.nz>, Greg Procter says...

>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jose Gaspar wrote:

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <47FFB07B.2A676B32@ihug.co.nz>, Greg Procter says...

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jose Gaspar wrote:

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <47FEE4CA.36A230AA@ihug.co.nz>, Greg Procter says...

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Jose Gaspar wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <47FEB5BF.E4250C31@ihug.co.nz>, Greg Procter says...

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Seth Hammond wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Greg Procter" ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:47FEAC65.20DA2FF@ihug.co.nz...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seth Hammond wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:2g2tv35midstjg71eiq7d3psj9qrm2oqec@4ax.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:19:49 +1200, Greg Procter

>>>>>>>ihug.co.nz>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:50:17 +1200, Greg Procter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ihug.co.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:59:00 -0700, "Seth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hammond"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>"Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>news:ccfqv314c8qbo4ndofn8k66n644r9rvu2t@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:03:26 +1200, Greg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Procter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ihug.co.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:57:22 -0700, "Seth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hammond"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>"Sarah Czepiel" cox.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>>

>>>>>>>:>news:ksjpv355mtfs89ohtdkdknpo2atl0c9iql@4ax.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:04:40 +1200,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg

>>>>>>>Procter

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> ihug.co.nz>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Seth Hammond wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> "Greg Procter"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ihug.co.nz> wrote

>>>>>>>in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:47FBD220.D1F09E73@ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> > That would be the equivalent of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>trashed

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double-wide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> dumped in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> > featureless desert?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Hardly. Our doublewides are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> famous for

>>>>>>>their

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heating and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> cooling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> efficiency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>The walls fall off in summer and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burn them

>>>>>>>>>in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winter to stay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> warm?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Seth, the only thing your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double-wides are

>>>>>>>>>famous

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for are cheap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> nasty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>low standard housing for yanks too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poor to

>>>>>>>buy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> WTF are you babbling about groggy? "

>>>>>>>>>Doublewides"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are owner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> occupied and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> are not low income council housing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Fat

>>>>>>>>>Nicky's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slum dwelling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mobilehomesforsalebyowners.com/allen3.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>And all are built to meet local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> built the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>same as homes built on-site. The only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference

>>>>>>>is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> built
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>indoors and then delivered to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. Some

>>>>>>>are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built on steel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> frames
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>and called "mobile homes", while others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built

>>>>>>>on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wooden frames
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>called "modular homes".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>HTHBIDI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Yep, plus most I've seen at least have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crawl

>>>>>>>space

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underneath with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> having full basements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> It's mindboggling to read a comment such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "cheap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>> housing" from a dweller living in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abandoned pig
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughter house.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>Your mind appears to be regularly boggled!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>A mobile home with a basement - wish I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen that

>>>>>>>one

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> :>it's temporary site!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> As you know, the type of modular/mobile home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seth and I

>>>>>>>>>are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>> isn't towable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> :>Some are - some aren't, but they can all be set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up

>>>>>>>anywhere.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> Yes that's true, but double wides aren't "towable"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the

>>>>>>>>>sense

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you slap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> one behind an F150 and hit the road for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> require more than one flat bed truck and a police
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escort "

>>>>>>>>>WIDE

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOAD" to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>> get them on site. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> :>So a "single wide" would be???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>> So a "single wide" would be...what?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>According to your description a "singlewide" is barely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> narrower

>>>>>>>than

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :>"doublewide". 18' vs 20'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Double-Wide Homes: 24 ft. wide by 52 ft. long through 32
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ft. wide by

>>>>>>>>>80

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ft.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once helped build a five-wide as a clinic for a copper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mining

>>>>>>>company.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you move the damn thing, cut it into five
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strips??

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sections are built individually, then bolted together on-site,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just as

>>>>>>>in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern ship construction. Five-wide means five sections. IIRC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each was

>>>>>>>>>8'

>>>>>>>>>>>>> wide and 60' long, making a final structure 40' x 60'. Each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> section was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trailered 160 miles or so.

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Err Seth, I spent a decade in the shipping business - they
>>>>>>>>>>>>don't build
>>>>>>>>>>>>ships in 8' wide sections and then bolt them together!
>>>>>>>>>>>>(Well perhaps a 16' wide still water ship ...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Why 8 feet wide??? Around here the limit (AFAIK) is 8.7m
>>>>>>>>>>>>(28'6")
>>>>>>>>>>>>That number is based on the fact that a neighbour's 8.7m wide
>>>>>>>>>>>>barn was
>>>>>>>>>>>>trucked in and I was told that was the widest allowable. (so
>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps 9m
>>>>>>>>>>>>is the actual limt)

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here in Florida you can move a whole house but the special
>>>>>>>>>>> permits,

>>>>>>>escorts,

>>>>>>>>>>> powerline take-down, etc. will cost many thousands of dollars. An
>>>>>>>>>>> 8' or

>>>>>>>10'

>>>>>>>>>>> wide mobile home section can be towed virtually anywhere...

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Here in NZ we only move whole houses, or part houses if they're
>>>>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>>>>really big.
>>>>>>>>>>Building codes don't allow for anything of a lower standard than
>>>>>>>>>>real
>>>>>>>>>>houses.
>>>>>>>>>>One can live in a caravan (you call them trailers - we call
>>>>>>>>>>towable
>>>>>>>>>>utility decks trailers) and even a converted ISO container, but
>>>>>>>>>>the law
>>>>>>>>>>is that it can only sit (lived in) for three months.

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I've been tutored about caravans and:
>>>>>>>>> pavement = sidewalks
>>>>>>>>> loo = bathroom
>>>>>>>>> sleeping policeman = speed bump
>>>>>>>>> dual carriageway = double lane road
>>>>>>>>> central reservation = road median
>>>>>>>>> car park = parking lot
>>>>>>>>> aerial = antenna
>>>>>>>>> boot = trunk
>>>>>>>>> crackers = crazy
>>>>>>>>> purse = wallet
>>>>>>>>> biscuits = cookies
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most Florida counties have statues that only allow mobile homes in
>>>>>>>>> designated
>>>>>>>>> mobile home parks. Otherwise at least 5 acres of land is required
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> permanently place a mobile home. The purpose of course is to limit
>>>>>>>>> their use
>>>>>>>>> because they can become a real eyesore when the owners let them run
>>>>>>>>> down. In
>>>>>>>>> fact when they're brand new, they still look like shit.

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think this whole discussion is occuring because of another of those
>>>>>>>>terminology shifts:
>>>>>>>>To me, a "mobile home" would be a home that is _mobile_, ie movable
>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>a Winibago or a caravan.
>>>>>>>>I'm suspicious that Sarah, Seth etc are talking about a home that is
>>>>>>>>"transportable", something like a works site office built into a
>>>>>>>>container, although that might better be called "portable".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It can't be that surprising that I've been somewhat confused by a
>>>>>>>>description of a "mobile home" that apparently isn't a mobile home?
>>>>>>>>When we get this one sorted we can try "manufactured home" and ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Greg.P.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, in Florida, mobile homes are commonly called 'trailers.' In one
>>>>>>>hurricane
>>>>>>> shelter I informed all the displaced folks that they it was deemed
>>>>>>> safe to go
>>>>>>> back to their 'trailers.' I caught some flak for saying that from the
>>>>>>> mobile
>>>>>>> home owners.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the US, a Winnebago (or any other manufacturer of a motorized
>>>>>>> camper) is
>>>>>>>called a motor home. A caravan is called a camping trailer, although
>>>>>>>the word
>>>>>>> 'caravan' has a completely different meaning in the US. A mobile home
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> semi-permanent home that can be transported on either permanently
>>>>>>> mounted or
>>>>>>> temporarily mounted axles. By semi-permanent, I mean that they can
>>>>>>> easily be
>>>>>>> hooked up and transported to a new location, although they are
>>>>>>> normally not
>>>>>>> moved once set up.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We come full circle - by the time your "mobile home" is a home, it's
>>>>>>_not_ mobile, whether or not it was ever mobile.
>>>>>>Is that stupid terminology or stupid terminology?

>>>>>
>>>>> The English language is chocked full of 'stupid' terminology...
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ate a toad-in-the-hole are you eating toads?

>>>>
>>>> The cooked beaten egg mixture certainly does look like toads in holes.
>>>>

>>>>> Does ten-a-penny have anything to do with money?

>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>> I suppose snakes-and-ladders has something to do with reptiles?

>>>>
>>>> The operating characters printed on the boards are in fact
>>>> representation of snakes and ladders.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>> Sixes-and-sevens has something to do with numbers?

>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>> Does over-egging-the-pudding have anything to do with food?

>>>>
>>>> That has to be a yank thing, adding too much egg to a pudding mix would
>>>> certainly be a food description.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile homes have evolved over the years. In my younger years most of
>>>>> the
>>>>> mobile homes (trailers) still had axles and tires attached even though
>>>>> they
>>>>> normally were not being towed anywhere. But they could be towed with a
>>>>> few
>>>>> hours preparation. It was not uncommon for mobile homes to be traded or
>>>>> moved
>>>>> to other mobile home parks. But over the years mobile homes have become
>>>>> less
>>>>> mobile but the name remains.

>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If they are not mobile then they are _not_ mobile.
>>>> Why don't you call them "tents" or "alligators"?

>>>
>>>That they were mobile when they left the factory is a given, you simple
>>>twit. What happens next to them is up to the buyer innit.

>>
>> Logic doesn't work for him, does it? Maybe he ate too many of those canker
>> infected oranges?

>
>Those houses were never mobile

>sections of those houses were
>"transportable".

>Once the home is stitched together it is in no sense mobile.