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Author: RushgedlifeRushgedlife Date: Nov 6, 2006 12:38
"In the meantime, here's my annual rundown of how the hopefuls match
up.
Safe bets
Van Halen: The guitar wizardry of Eddie Van Halen alone is reason
enough to induct these overdue hard-rockers, who also have a string of
hits (including the 1984 No. 1 smash "Jump") and have sold more than 56
million albums. The big question is if Gary Cherone, who sang with the
band for five minutes or so a few years ago, will be honored along with
David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar."
- Cleveland Plain Dealer (November 05, 2006)
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment/116266772446520...
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Author: TBTB Date: Nov 6, 2006 12:52
"Rushgedlife" wrote:
> "In the meantime, here's my annual rundown of how the hopefuls match
> up.
>
> Safe bets
>
> Van Halen: The guitar wizardry of Eddie Van Halen alone is reason
> enough to induct these overdue hard-rockers, who also have a string of
> hits (including the 1984 No. 1 smash "Jump") and have sold more than 56
> million albums. The big question is if Gary Cherone, who sang with the
> band for five minutes or so a few years ago, will be honored along with
> David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar."
>
> - Cleveland Plain Dealer (November 05, 2006)
I'll bet anyone that Sammy will not be "honored" if Van Halen get inducted.
Any takers?
T.B.
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Author: RMZRMZ Date: Nov 6, 2006 14:36
Won''t take your bet because I don't know you... But for anyone who
wants to this is a sure win for them, here's why....
1. There's no question; they will get in....
2. Based on the controlling powers, there little chance Hagar will be
excluded.
The logic behind this is simple, the band will get in because of their
enormous success in the 80's and early 90's. If Blodie and Sex Pistols
can make it in 2006, Van Halen is a sure thing. Why would anyone doubt
this?
Once they win the bid to get in, the decision is on the Van Halen
brothers, namely Eddie which former and current band members to
include.
It's not a popularity contest, it's not based on album or ticket sales.
It's the decision of the current line up. So even if the majority of
people hated Hagar, which they don't, it would not matter. The press
has no control, the fans have control, the record label has no control,
the Hall of fame has no controll. It's all in Eddie and Alex, and maybe
Wolffie's hands.
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Author: TBTB Date: Nov 6, 2006 15:02
> Won''t take your bet because I don't know you... But for anyone who
> wants to this is a sure win for them, here's why....
>
> 1. There's no question; they will get in....
> 2. Based on the controlling powers, there little chance Hagar will be
> excluded.
>
> The logic behind this is simple, the band will get in because of their
> enormous success in the 80's and early 90's. If Blodie and Sex Pistols
> can make it in 2006, Van Halen is a sure thing. Why would anyone doubt
> this?
>
> Once they win the bid to get in, the decision is on the Van Halen
> brothers, namely Eddie which former and current band members to
> include.
>
> It's not a popularity contest, it's not based on album or ticket sales.
> It's the decision of the current line up. So even if the majority of ...
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Author: mcquestion5000mcquestion5000 Date: Nov 6, 2006 15:44
TB wrote:
> I'm waiting. Anyone?
>
> T.B.
I wouldn't take that bet. Ed seems pretty sour about The Other Half
tour.
McQ
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Author: RushgedlifeRushgedlife Date: Nov 6, 2006 15:58
TB wrote:
>I'll bet anyone that Sammy will not be
>"honored" if Van Halen get inducted.
>
>Any takers?
It's probably a safe bet that he should get in.
Based on the length of his tenure and the huge success of his era.
Will he? VH is too unpredictable, you just never know.
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Author: Tommy WalkerTommy Walker Date: Nov 6, 2006 16:23
The spin doctors are in! Let's see what they've served up for us
today:
While fondling his scrotum, Rushgedlife wrote:
> He was in the band longer than Roth.
Wrong. Roth joined the band in 1974. He left in 1985. Sammy joined
in 1985 and left in 1996.
It is also interesting to note that Van Halen with Roth released more
albums in 6 years than Van Hagar did in 11 years.
> Roth had 6 albums, Hagar had 4.
Wrong again. Hagar had 5 albums (5150, OU812, FUCK, Balance, Live
RHRN).
> The 4 Hagar albums were all #1 albums (none of the Roth albums made it
> to #1).
Makes no difference in terms of actual record sales.
> All of the Hagar albums were multi-Platinum (averaged 4X Platinum
> each).
So were the Roth albums.
> They also released their only live album during the Hagar era (double
> album). It also went multi-Platinum.
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Author: IGBIGB Date: Nov 6, 2006 16:24
> TB wrote:
>
> He was in the band longer than Roth.
> Roth had 6 albums, Hagar had 4.
Longer after they were famous and less productive.
Hagar is like a rich kid who inherited daddys fortune.
> The 4 Hagar albums were all #1 albums (none of the Roth albums made it
> to #1).
Roth outsold sammy 2-1 in sales.
Number 1 is meaningless, especially when the first album didnt crack the top
10, but charted twice as long as any of Van Hagars number 1s.
Even VH3 with Cherone charted higher than some Dave albums, but was the
first VH album not to go platinum.
> All of the Hagar albums were multi-Platinum (averaged 4X Platinum
> each). Possibly unprecedented (four consecutive multi-Platinum #1
> albums).
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Author: Wacky RacersWacky Racers Date: Nov 6, 2006 16:33
RMZ wrote:
> It's not a popularity contest, it's not based on album or ticket sales.
> It's the decision of the current line up.
That's not true at all, if it was CJ Ramone would be in the Hall and
Marky Ramone wouldn't. Johnny Ramone wanted the former in and the
latter excluded, but he didn't get his wish.
Plus, it wouldn't make sense to allow the current version of a band to
decide, since a lot of bands inducted aren't even together anymore. In
other cases, the current line up of a band might only have one or two
original or noteworthy members, why should they be able to decide who
gets in and who doesn't?
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Author: RushgedlifeRushgedlife Date: Nov 6, 2006 16:59
Penis Lover Chuck G (hyper-posting as "IGB" and "Tommy Walker") wrote:
>Wrong. Roth joined the band in 1974.
Now you just look desperate.
The Roth era was great. No need to grasp at straws. It officially began
in 1978.
>> Both of the VH greatest hits packages were
>> proportionately represented by the Hagar era.
>
>Wrong. On BOV1, there are 10 Roth songs and
>7 Hagar songs.
Once again, no need to grasp at straws.
Essentially, the Roth era of VH was 60%% (6 albums) and the Hagar era
was 40%% (4 albums).
Cherone era disregarded to simplify the math (also, no songs were
included on any of the "Best Of" albums anyway).
On BOV1, there were 8 (generously including an instrumental song) Roth
era "Best Of" tracks and 7 Hagar era "Best Of" tracks. Roughly a 50/50
split.
The 2 new songs were not "Best Of" tracks.
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