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	<title><![CDATA[&quot;They survived Roth's original departure and actually became more successful without him&quot;]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[You Know What's Funny: Van Halen<br>But Not 'Ha Ha' Funny<br>by Trent McMartin<br><br>How much more can Van Halen fans take? First David Lee Roth was out,<br>though red rocker Sammy Hagar turned out to be more than a suitable<br>replacement. Then Hagar leaves (or was fired) and the band brings back<br>Diamond Dave for a doomed brief stint before settling on Gary Cherone,<br>who lasted one unsuccessful album, 1998's Van Halen III - the album<br>for which longtime bassist Michael Anthony reportedly played on only<br>three tracks. It's enough to make you ask, "Where have all the good<br>times gone."<br><br>I remember seeing that MTV awards ceremony back in '97 with Roth and<br>Van Halen and it reeked of nothing more than a cash grab. The nineties<br>were the golden age of reunions, with many groups like the Eagles,<br>Fleetwood Mac, Jane's Addiction and KISS getting their classic line ups<br>back together. The tours and coinciding greatest hits compilations<br>brought in a lot of money and proved that dinosaurs of rock could<br>reclaim their past glory, though if only for a brief time. Nostalgia<br>can only take you so far.<br><br>Van Halen's second reunion came after a disastrous album and tour with<br>ex-Extreme front man Gary Cherone. After that debacle, the group went<br>on hiatus for a few years only to unexpectedly reappear with Hagar in<br>2004. After the '04 tour, Hagar finally had had enough of EVH's erratic<br>behavior (reportedly fueled by alcohol abuse) and he left the band once<br>again. Bassist Michael Anthony soon followed and was replaced with<br>Eddie's teenage son, Wolfgang Van Halen, last year.<br><br>Line up changes are a normal occurrence in rock music, some bands<br>experience it more than others - just take Black Sabbath and Guns N'<br>Roses for example. Van Halen was no exception. They survived Roth's<br>original departure and actually became more successful without him,<br>earning four number one hit albums and winning multiple awards<br>including the 1992 MTV Video of the Year award for their "Right Now,"<br>music video.<br><br>Now with Hagar currently out of the picture, there's been speculation<br>that David Lee Roth will join the group for a third outing (his<br>mid-nineties turn lasted all of a few days, if that). Even a summer<br>tour in the works, though, like anything with Van Halen, it's all up in<br>the air.<br><br>Speaking to Rolling Stone recently, Eddie Van Halen couldn't (or<br>wouldn't) fully commit to Roth being welcomed back into the group,<br>saying he is waiting on Roth, not the other way around. It's been<br>widely known that Roth has wanted to get back into Van Halen for years,<br>especially after his solo career stalled, and even recently Diamond<br>Dave was quoted as saying a reunion was 'inevitable'. Reportedly, Roth<br>has even stood in on a few informal jam sessions with the Van Halens<br>(Eddie, Alex, and Wolfgang)<br><br>But the lack of assurance on EVH's part is leading to speculation that<br>a reunion is farther away than originally reported. The brothers Van<br>Halen revealed to Rolling Stone that a summer tour is first and<br>foremost on the agenda and will occur with or without Roth. "Whoever<br>the singer is, they'll be surrounded by Van Halens," Alex Van Halen<br>remarked.<br><br>Which begs the question, does anyone actually care anymore? The band<br>has put their fans through hell and the thought of a new tour is more<br>laughable than celebratory. Those fans hardened from a decade worth of<br>fiascos may still care, but they're small in number. Most have moved<br>on, including myself, a self-professed former 'Van Halenite.' It was<br>Van Halen, and more specifically Eddie Van Halen, that made me fall in<br>love with the guitar, even inspiring me to pick it up, though only<br>briefly (I learned a few chords and a couple John Denver tunes). Other<br>than a handful of other bands, I cannot think of any one group who<br>actually influenced me more musically than Van Halen - they were my<br>first big concert (Northlands Coliseum, 1991).<br><br>As of now, the group is rehearsing, evidently without Roth, and getting<br>prepared for their March 12th induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of<br>Fame. Despite DLR not being present much during recent jam sessions,<br>the energetic singer will attend the induction ceremony along with his<br>replacement Sammy Hagar and original bassist Michael Anthony, which<br>could make for an uncomfortable setting. No word yet if Gary Cherone<br>will be there, but I'm guessing it's unlikely. He's saving himself for<br>the 2012 Van Halen reunion tour - 'The Return of Cherone' - and the<br>follow-up 2015 tour, which will feature all three singers.<br> <br><a href="http://www.moregoatthangoose.com/blog/index.php?id=trent070126" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.moregoatthangoose.com/blog/index.php?id=trent070126</a><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[^*^*^^*^*^* Barely Legal Babes! ^*^^*^*^*^^]]></title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:23:04 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Remember the last time DLR was on stage with VH?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[How well did that go?<br><br>The car-crash moment will be March 12, the RRHOF induction ceremony.<br><br>Wear a diaper, in case you shit yourself. <br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:40:03 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Only &quot;official&quot; by name]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Do not think for a second that there are any guarantees when it comes<br>to Van Halen.  Back in 1996, everyone thought that this was a done<br>deal.  But then it blew up.<br><br>Dave and the Van Halen boys still have plenty of obstacles to leap<br>through before the tour takes off.  There's the rehearsals, the<br>collaboration between Dave and the Van Halens, Ed's drinking, etc.<br><br>Seriously, what's going to happen when Dave steps into the rehearsal<br>studio with Wolfgang?  What happens when Dave criticizes the way that<br>Wolfgang plays bass (you know that Ed will never hear any mistakes in<br>his playing, no matter how bad he plays)... what's going to happen at<br>the press conference and HOF induction when Dave turns on his Diamond<br>Dave persona (remember the 96 VMAs).... what happens when Ed tells Dave<br>not to say that "F" word in front of his son?<br><br>My point is, there are plenty of eggs and only a small portion of them<br>have already hatched.  There is a lot of time between now and the end<br>of May.  For all we know, the tour could end up being cancelled early<br>when Ed can't stay sober or gets his feelings hurt by Dave.<br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:38:05 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Van Halen Reunion Via Fox25 News Boston]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Announced:<br><br>Edward, Wolfgang and Alex Van Halen along with David Lee Roth for a 40 gig <br>date tour.  A clip of the Mtv video "Jump" was aired along with a silent <br>clip of Sammy Hagar on stage with Edward Van Halen, archives.  10 p. m. news <br>eastern standard time, Comcast Barnstable County channel 13, Fox25 News. <br>Approx. 10:45 p. m. e. s. t..<br><br>-- <br>William K. Mahler, Owner - Webmaster<br>Help Unicef Today @ <a href="http://www.mahlers.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">www.mahlers.com</a><br>Yahoo Instant Messenger ID: mahlerscom<br>reply: mahlerscom at mahlers dot com <br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:59:20 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[&quot;a tour that kicks off in North Carolina in early May&quot;]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Van Halen is back -- with David Lee Roth<br>Roth will rejoin his old band mates for a national tour that is<br>scheduled to reach the Southland in June.<br>By Geoff Boucher, Times Staff Writer<br>January 25, 2007<br><br>Give credit (or blame?) to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: David Lee<br>Roth is back with Van Halen and planning to tour.<br><br>The mercurial Roth, who officially left Van Halen on April Fool's Day<br>in 1985, will reunite with his old band for a tour that kicks off in<br>North Carolina in early May and includes June stops in L.A., Orange and<br>San Diego counties, according to sources in the concert industry.<br><br>Joining Roth will be guitar hero Eddie Van Halen and drummer Alex Van<br>Halen. But bassist Michael Anthony reportedly will be replaced by Eddie<br>Van Halen's teenage son Wolfgang.<br><br>The band had been planning a splashy press conference in L.A. to<br>announce the news, but word leaked out Thursday. There had been intense<br>speculation that the reunion might happen after the announcement this<br>month that the band would be inducted into the Hall of Fame in New York<br>on March 12.<br><br>That induction ceremony at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel could be a study<br>in awkward stage politics now, considering that Sammy Hagar, the<br>on-again-off-again replacement for Roth, is being inducted as well.<br><br>Hagar sang with the band on their lucrative tour dates in 2004 and 2005<br>and told The Times a few weeks ago that he hoped the ceremony would be<br>a good-spirited celebration of the band's legacy. Now, he faces the<br>prospect of playing the rock bridesmaid at the celebration of his<br>band's rekindled first marriage.<br><br>Hagar and Roth have feuded publicly, and in 2002, when they turned<br>their public animus into a tour of strange bedfellows, the venture<br>dipped into soap opera almost daily.<br><br>It's not technically Roth's first return to Van Halen; he appeared<br>onstage with the band at the MTV Video Music Awards in 1996. They<br>recorded a few songs but then it was all off again.<br><br>The return of Roth will be met with exultation by fans of the band's<br>edgier and and raunchier Sunset Strip metal roots and their remarkable<br>six-album rise to the top of rock stardom, which began with "Van Halen"<br>in 1979, an album that has shipped more than 10 million copies to<br>stores, according to the Recording Industry Assn. of America. Hagar's<br>entry into the lineup in 1985 marked a step toward a less aggressive<br>edge and more mainstream sound.<br><br>Fans have long debated which lineup truly rules and now Roth will get a<br>chance to present his argument onstage for the first time since the<br>Reagan administration.<br><br><a href="http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-halen25jan25,0,2904496.story?coll=la-home-entertainment" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-halen25jan25,0,2904496.story?coll...</a><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:08:07 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Now that it's &quot;official&quot;.....]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[....will Dave do a bluegrass solo after Ed's guitar solo? <br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:42:34 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Van Halen's official website is undergoing changes.]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[If you load up <a href="http://www.van-halen.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.van-halen.com</a> and try to enter the site<br>you're continuous redirected to to the logo (gateway) page... This<br>means changes of some sort are underway.<br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:31:07 PST</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[&quot;time has been somewhat unkind to Roth&quot;]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Van Halen reunites, Second Coming is nigh<br><br>It has come to this. The gods of metal did grunt and the thunder did<br>creak and Poison, Dokken, Def Leppard, Ratt, Whitesnake and the rest of<br>the '80s quinquagenarian rockers have already wrapped up their various<br>"reunion" tours of the sundry community theaters, Midwestern county<br>fairs and shopping malls across this fine nation, so of course now is<br>the time for the granddaddy of all conflagrations, the Great Reuniting<br>fans have been waiting for about 20 years, the real Second Coming.<br><br>Yes, the original Van Halen, easily the greatest party-metal band of<br>all time, is finally reuniting (well, most of them) for a summer tour.<br>Shudder, and hope, and shudder again.<br><br>Incredible as this band was in its heyday (and much deserving of<br>inclusion in the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame), you have to admit, the<br>signs are not encouraging.<br><br>David Lee Roth, after a miserable (read: cancelled after four months<br>for allegedly being a crazed diva nut) stint as a radio personality and<br>a bizarre turn as a New York paramedic and some sort of crazy-ass thing<br>where he was last seen doing a kooky bluegrass version of "Jump" on<br>cable TV (and admittedly looking like he was having a blast doing it),<br>Roth looks like he's been ready to be permanently installed in the Tiki<br>Lounge at Caesar's Palace since about 1996.<br><br>Eddie Van Halen was last seen hosting a big porn party at his LA<br>mansion (warning: NSFW), celebrating the release of "upscale" porn<br>director Michael Ninn's latest, uh, masterpiece, Sacred Sin, for which<br>Eddie wrote the soundtrack. You think I am making this up. I am not<br>making this up. Somewhere, Valerie Bertinelli is twitching.<br><br>There is danger. There is wary trepidation among the hair-metal<br>cognoscenti. There is the nervous consideration that this will not be<br>the slightest bit pretty, given how, first and foremost, time has been<br>somewhat unkind to Roth, who now looks like a PTA dad and whose voice<br>was never all that spectacular and which clearly has dropped a few<br>notches in quality, and worse to Eddie, who's already had one hip<br>replaced and who battled both alcoholism and mouth cancer (after chain<br>smoking for his entire life) and now looks like something death dragged<br>into the kitchen to warm over.<br><br>What's more, word is that Eddie's 15-year-old kid Wolfgang will play<br>bass in place of Michael Anthony, who's only real contribution was<br>those famous high-range vocal harmonies. Wait, do I know way too much<br>about this? How sad. I guess I'll have to buy a ticket, just to quell<br>the demons. Sigh.<br><br>On the upside, I suppose it sure as hell beats that rumored Culture<br>Club reunion tour of Este Lauder department store makeup counters.<br><br>Somebody said, "fair warning."<br><br><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=3&entry_id=12940" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=3&entry_id=12940</a><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Since there's nothing else going on...Part IV]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA["20 Greatest Guitar Solos Ever, With Videos"<br><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3y4sgs" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3y4sgs</a><br><br><br>
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