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Group: alt.music.marilynmanson · Group Profile
Author: m-urana
Date: Nov 13, 2007 16:50

On Nov 14, 9:39 am, m-urana gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 7:54 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>> "m-urana" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>news:1194956301.778780.272870@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
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>>> On Nov 13, 12:50 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>> Everyone is anonymous, my friend. Names are flimsy pellicles with which
>>>> we
>>>> wrap mysteries in an attempt to get them to behave themselves according
>>>> to
>>>> our wishes.
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>>> or otherwise to see them behave according to our expectations.
>>> (aren't we dismal)
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>> Nah. The ability to manipulate mental models of the universe is a very
>> useful skill. But we have to remember that the models are not the things
>> they represent.
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>>>>> the picture frame that seperates you from ... all the crazy people.
>>>>> fantasy and childhood. the looking-glass...
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>>>> That's another way we try to contain the uncontainable.
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>>> my point...
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>> Was it? It's kind of hard to tell. You ramble a bit.
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> mental model building (in rome)
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>>> there is a barrier we put there, and we only "look back", or we only
>>> "look through", with some nostalgic sadness or collectors appreciation
>>> (if we haven't put down lifewonder altogether)... i am talking about
>>> REACHING through, dissolving that distance.
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>> Yeah, I know. You can't. What's past is not what's now. What's real is
>> what's happening right now, not what may have happened once upon a time.
>> The past is a museum full of collected objects, a hoard we clutch at
>> greedily by telling our stories over and over, hoping to keep the present
>> from moving away. But it always does. You cannot reach back. There is no
>> back to reach. It's just a story. You cannot live in your memory any more
>> than you can live in a novel. Every attempt to do so simply confuses you
>> more.
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> i know somebody who is trying to make a very livable novel.
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> anyway here's my example.
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> toys...... for long time i attempted to get back into them without
> that grasp-for-the-past feeling, but i couldn't because there was such
> an underlying depression to my motivation.....it wasn't very much
> about living it in the present. for years this was the case until
> oneday it wasn't, maybe magic mushrooms helped me to truly smash the
> barrier back to this fantastic state of mind. i say back because it
> is something i once had, but obviously i don't mean to live in the
> past..... i simply am more of a actual child, again. it's become a
> natural way of being moreso than it has been since i was maybe 15
> (when the muppet babies started to lose me).

but i must MUST say. even though things must be let to pass, and
even though "NEW things start", the memories of childhood are flowing
back without the feeling that there's been an unbridgable distance of
time and CHANGE. i feel like i'm only a day beyond leaving school,
and psychologically that is what i am trying to achieve...total
imbecility. (kidding). on the other hand i am still a vampire
scurrying away from the void.
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