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Author: Mikals13
Date: Sep 19, 2008 23:51

"Mikals13" ease.com> wrote in message
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>> Mikals13 wrote:
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>>>> Mikals13 wrote:
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>>>>>> Gil J wrote:
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>>>>>>>> "Gil J" wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>> PUT YOURSELF IN HER POSITION..WILL MAKE YOU THINK!!!
>>>>>>>> Sorry, the link didn't send and i've deleted it.
>>>>>>>> Gil
>>>>>> I can't wait till the legislatures have enough sense to repeal the
>>>>>> 2nd
>>>>>> amendment. If guns were restricted, that man couldn't have shot
>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>> Your right.... he would have beaten them to death with a baseball
>>>>> bat.... Or
>>>>> stabbed them to death.... Try learning a little of what the rest of
>>>>> the
>>>>> world is going thru.... Ask the Aussies how they feel about gun
>>>>> control....
>>>>> ask them about thier crime rate.... ask them about thier murder
>>>>> rate....
>>>>>
>>>>> Crime is caused by people, murder is caused by people.... only one
>>>>> time in
>>>>> history that I know of was the gun the bad guy.... and that was at the
>>>>> end
>>>>> of WWII where a jap was killed during the time of removing a dead body
>>>>> from
>>>>> a downed bomber....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, but with any weapon that's a blunt object, that man would've been
>>>> stopped. A man with a gun could shoot ten people coming after him. With
>>>> a baseball bat or knife he could've been stopped. Besides, I'm not
>>>> talking about an all out ban, but rather more strict control.
>>>
>>> OK I agree.... But we already have tons of laws about guns.... but once
>>> again I have a little question.... First off the guy didn't shot 10
>>> people coming after him to make it stop.... I've never heard of
>>> anything like that happening.... and you also believe people will stop
>>> someone killing people with a baseball bat or a knife.... Tell me.... do
>>> you really believe that?? I think you need to do a history check.... You
>>> must be forgetting all the murders done by one person with a knife....
>>> Think Chicago.... try the east coast....
>>>
>>> Once again.... it is not the gun that kills.... todays news where I live
>>> is about a creep on a motorcycle driving down a flagger.... Yup.... His
>>> words.... "I'm rich I can do whatever I want".... She (the flagger) has
>>> two broken legs, 7 broken ribs, both lower arms broken plus damage to
>>> her insides.... In plain english he tried to kill her....
>>>
>>> Should we ban motorcycles so nothing like this happens again??
>>>
>>> Oh.... by the way.... I'm not a gun owner.... but its not within my
>>> rights to take things away from others.... Yes guns are used in
>>> killings, so are cars, motorcycles, knifes, bats, fists and anything
>>> else you can think of.... Think poison....
>> No, violent crime would by no means come to an end; but if the gun isn't
>> there, it can't be used. Everything else mentioned has a use; baseball
>> bats and knives are used for their intended purposes 99.9%% of the time.
>> What use is a pistol to John Doe other than to hurt someone or
>> something?
>
> OK.... once again.... YOUR right.... but think of this.... there are
> millions of guns.... hand guns.... rifles.... even machine guns....
> millions on top of millions of guns thruout America.... Everyday people
> who own guns get thru thier daily lifes without killing anyone around
> them.... Millions of people who live by the laws.... Without knowing the
> real number I'd be willing to bet theres at least 1000 people that obey
> law to ever 1 person ho doesn't....
>
> Think anything else and compare it to guns.... drunk drivers.... go on....
> just think about it....
>
> And as for what a pistol is.... I've owned a few.... from 22 to 45cal....
> never killed anyone.... I guess by the way you think I should of.... But
> thats not how it works.... I've shot thousands of rounds thru them.... I
> was trained with guns from little on.... also having spent time in the
> service of this country gave me plenty of time to "play" with the "big
> boy" toys.... So I don't see your point.... I agree with you that there
> are people who shouldn't be around guns.... and we need laws that work to
> keep them away from them.... BUT.... not the average man or woman.... For
> the very few who make the news theres thousands of us who play by the
> rules....
>
> I'm enjoying talking with you.... and I understand your side.... I don't
> believe in it.... but I do understand it.... and respect where your coming
> from....
>

May I add this.... from another newsgroup talking about the same thing....

">I was working at Ft. Hood at the time of the Lusby's shootings. We often
>went to lunch at the cafeteria, in fact that day I had packed a lunch from
>home, but, at the last minute decided I'd go to the cafeteria instead. As
>I was walking out the door of my office building, for some reason I changed
>my mind and thought "you packed a lunch and you should eat it" and I turned
>around and went back to my desk to eat.
> After the incident, the cafeteria re-opened and many people returned to
> eating there. I went one time, but was totally uneasy and never returned.
> It has changed hands several times over the years and now is some kind of
> office building. I retired from Government service in 2004 and no longer
> live in the Ft. Hood area. But I'll never forget that day."

Tell me.... gun?? or the person holding it?? What do the people who could
or were there that day blame?? Gun control is a problem my friend.... Once
again check on the nations with no gun at all controls.... Look at thier
crime rate.... See who it is that cannot protect themselves.... see who
suffers.... and why.... Sure we all wish it would all go away.... Just
think the same way on a different matter.... people who drive fast kill more
people then the ones who obey the laws.... How do we ban they from driving??
How do we protect ourselves from them?? Lets outlaw cars.... then
trucks.... and buses and go back to the days where only trains killed
people.... ooops.... I'm getting ahead of myself.... I forgot about
horses.... and then theres always Mother Nature.... I can't wait till
congress passes a law banning her....

Its a pipe dream.... this country is built on the backs of freedom loving
people who believe.... in you.... in me.... and everyone else.... Ban the
crime.... jail the ones who don't want to be a part of this country.... We
have enough laws.... Maybe too many lawyers.... but enough laws already....
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