The Apostle Paul -- Accepted As A True Apostle Of Jesus Christ By Luke, Barnabas, Silas, Peter, All The Disciples Present At The Time AND ESPECIALLY The Holy Spirit (snow & Linda Lee Oppose The Holy Spirit)
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The Apostle Paul -- Accepted As A True Apostle Of Jesus Christ By Luke, Barnabas, Silas, Peter, All The Disciples Present At The Time AND ESPECIALLY The Holy Spirit (snow & Linda Lee Oppose The Holy Spirit)         

Group: alt.messianic · Group Profile
Author: Carl
Date: Jun 4, 2008 16:31

On Jun 4, 7:22 pm, Linda Lee hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
>
> It is YOU, HERETIC, who have no excuse for attempting to make
> acceptance of Paul a *requirement* for one to be a follower of Christ.
> Your abominable efforts in that regard make it obvious that Paul is
> your 'god' in place of Christ.
>
> Christ is my LORD and Saviour, and your lying contention that those
> who follow Christ cannot do so unless they also accept your false
> apostle Paul is a blasphemous abomination to God. It is YOU who are
> the vile heretic to Christ's teachings, adding the additional
> requirement that those who follow Christ must also accept your false
> apostle.
>
> Christ/God/the Holy spirit are grieved at your lies and your efforts
> to persecute and slander the followers of the Messiah, i.e. the saints
> of God. Christ said, "follow me" (Matt. 19:21) to inherit eternal
> life, not follow/accept Paul.
>
> You are like the Devil himself, lying about what God said. You should
> be ashamed of your heretical blasphemous ways. You'll pay for your
> disgusting lie on Judgment Day, mark my words.
>
> You're a sick dog, Carl.

Once again we witness Linda Lee bearing bad fruit and bearing false
witness. Typical of false teachers according to Jesus Christ. And we
witness time and time again Linda Lee rejecting the Holy Spirit and
rejecting God's Word. For according to the Holy Spirit, Paul was a
true apostle of Jesus Christ. And Luke, Barnabas, Silas, Peter and the
disciples of Jesus Christ who were present at the time, Paul was a
true apostle of Jesus Christ. Yet Linda Lee rejects them, too.
Furthermore for over 2000 years from the early church fathers to the
present, thousands upon thousands of brilliant Christian minds
accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ. Linda Lee rejects
those Christians as well. According to her statement "Paul is the way
to HELL" all those listed above...the Holy Spirit, Luke, Barnabas,
Silas, Peter, the disciples of Jesus Christ present at the time, the
early church fathers and billions of Christians over the over two
thousands years were/are hellbound because they all accepted/accept
Paul as a true disciple of Jesus Christ. Face it, folks, Linda Lee
fits just about every single descriptor of a false teacher according
to Jesus Christ and to take her horrible exegesis, nonexistant
hermeneutics and blatant prooftexting as valid is complete and utter
foolishness.

Linda, I am still saved by God's Grace through faith in Jesus Christ
and none of your threats nor claims otherwise will remove me from
God's Hands nor take away the salvation He gave me freely. Your claims
to the contrary are just as false as your rejection of God's Word and
rejection of Paul as an apostle of Jesus Christ.

And as usual, you bear false witness and commit libel. Forshame, Linda
Lee, for you, as the false teacher of which Jesus Christ, the Messiah,
describes, keep bearing bad fruit. Showing this isn't lying Linda, but
exposing a false teacher and in turn warning Christian brethren to
reject your false teachings. You really go out of your way to prove my
points about you and your behavior. Thank you for making it all so
easy. This is merely another example of that all-too common Linda Lee
wit and wisdom which cause most every one who reads her posts to never
take her seriously.

Linda, your bad fruit shows what is within your heart (this is
Biblical) and since your fruit is bad, your heart is therefore
darkened according to Scripture (again, Biblical). Now you call
Biblical truth lies which is an example of God teaching us that
corrupted individuals like yourself will call good evil and evil good.
So basically you're being an example of Biblical teachings of those
who are false teachers. All Biblical truth. Deny it all you wish, but
your words and deeds expose your wickedness.

Jesus said in Matthew 15:18-20
“But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and
these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts,
murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands
does not make him 'unclean.'"

Your words show that you are unclean.

Romans 1:29-32
They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and
depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice .
They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and
boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. although they know
God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,
they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of
those who practice them.

Ephesians 4:29-32
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what
is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it
may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of
God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of
all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every
form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving
each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

Col 3:8
But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger,
rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

1 Peter 2:1
Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy,
envy, and slander of every kind.

Linda, your childish and vitriolic outbursts merely show not only your
hardened heart but also the fact that you still are unable to support
your anti-Paul errors. Especially the biggest flaws in your "Paul is a
false prophet" assertions, namely that Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter,
all the disciples of Jesus Christ who were present at the time AND the
Holy Spirit ALL accepted Paul as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.

Who do you side with, folks?

Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of Jesus Christ
present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit who accepted Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ?

Or abusive, foul-mouthed, Linda Lee who rejects most of the New
Testament, considers all who accept Paul as a true apostle, and I
quote directly from Linda Lee's self-written profile, "Paul is the way
to HELL"

Therefore, according to Linda Lee's assertion that "Paul is the way to
HELL" then are Luke, Silas, Barnabas, Peter, all the disciples of
Jesus Christ who were present with Paul AND the Holy Spirit in HELL?
Yeah, I know what you're saying, "Carl, what a RIDICULOUS question!"
It is ridiculous. But it follows the logical progression started by
Linda Lee when she asserted that those accepting Paul as a true
apostle of Jesus Christ are hellbound.

Just another GAPING FLAW (wide enough to drive a fleet of Mack trucks
through side-by-side simultaneously) in Linda Lee's assertions.

Think about it, folks. This is what the anti-Pauline crowd is
basically claiming without evidence.

My advice? Reject Linda Lee and all anti-Pauline nonsense for it is
unBiblical, errant teachings that cannot be supported scripturally.

Acts 2:1-4
2:1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from
heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw
what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on
each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began
to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

The Holy Spirit filled all at this house during the day of Pentecost.

Acts 4:8-10
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit , said to them: "Rulers and
elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an
act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, 10
then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from
the dead, that this man stands before you healed.

The Holy Spirit filled Peter.

Acts 4:23-31
23 On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and
reported all that the chief priests and elders had said to them. 24
When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to
God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heaven and the earth
and the sea, and everything in them. 25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit
through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
"'Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather
together against the Lord and against his Anointed One.'

27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and
the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy
servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will
had decided beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord, consider their
threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great
boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous
signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." 31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And
they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God
boldly.

Look who was filled with the Holy Spirit here.

Acts 7:55-56
55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit , looked up to heaven and saw
the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56
"Look," he said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the
right hand of God."

The Holy Spirit filled Stephen.

Acts 10:44-45
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on
all who heard the message. 45 The circumcised believers who had come
with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been
poured out even on the Gentiles.

The Holy Spirit filled all those who heard and believed [faith] the
message of the Good News that Peter spoke.

Acts 11:22-24
22 News of this reached the ears of the church at Jerusalem, and they
sent Barnabas to Antioch. 23 When he arrived and saw the evidence of
the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true
to the Lord with all their hearts. 24 He was a good man, full of the
Holy Spirit and faith, and a great number of people were brought to
the Lord.

The Holy Spirit filled Barnabas.

Acts 13:9-10
9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit,
looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 "You are a child of the devil
and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of
deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of
the Lord?"

The Holy Spirit filled Paul.

Acts 13:49-52
49 The word of the Lord spread through the whole region. 50 But the
Jews incited the God-fearing women of high standing and the leading
men of the city. They stirred up persecution against Paul and
Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51 So they shook the
dust from their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium. 52
And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit filled the disciples mentioned in v52.

Would the Holy Spirit fill a false apostle or someone who did not
truly believe [faith]? No. Would the Holy Spirit fill an unbeliever?
No. Would the Holy Spirit fill a rejecter of Christ? No.

Acts 15:8
8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the
Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.

Paul was a true apostle of Jesus Christ. So says the Scriptures.

Some books recommended that effectively refute all the anti-Paul POV's
include:

Hard Sayings of Paul by Manfred T. Brauch
Hard Sayings of the Bible by Peter H. Davids, et al.
The Apostle Paul: An Introduction to His Writings and Teaching by
Marion L. Soards
New International Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties by Gleason L.
Archer, Jr.
Hard Sayings of Jesus by Frederick Fyvie Bruce
What Paul Meant by Garry Wills
Exegetical Fallacies by D. A. Carson
Solving Bible Mysteries: Unraveling the Perplexing and Troubling
Passages of Scripture by D. James Kennedy

Linda, will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?

May God bless and help you see the error of you ways,
Carl
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