On Jul 4, 12:08 pm, "randy"
wavecable.com> wrote:> "Rob Strom"
> randy
>
>> Nice to read that. My brother, who can read the Bible in Hebrew, believes
>> that the plurality of Elohim isn't relevant to the issue, though he
>> completely believes in the Trinity. I just don't know, but do find it odd
>> that Elohim, the plural word for God, is used.
>
> "It's not a plural word, though."
>
> I agree with that, Rob.
Good. It looked as if you had written "I ... do find it odd
that Elohim, the plural word for God, is used".
...
>
> "And their goal is to assemble and do communion everywhere?
> (I'm assuming that "the local body of Christ" means
> the communion wafer -- the local blood of Christ
> being the wine, right? I think I have my substances
> right.)"
>
> I'm not sure I understand all that. I've done communion all my life, and I'm
> not sure many Christians even fully understand what it means, because it's
> become so ritualized. I think it's simply a rite meant to memorialize Jesus'
> first coming and death, which in effect allowed for the transfer of
> spiritual life to us.
For most Christians, the communion wafer
is believed to transform into the
local body of Christ, and the wine
into the local blood of Christ.
Bob Felts, who used to post here,
believed that the Torah was Christ
too, so if you're in synagogue, you were
actually unrolling Jesus (so you'd better
be careful doing it).
Since you can divide the persons but not
the substances, all of these objects
are to a Christian physically God,
though not personally God.
(See, I learned a lot of crazy theoretical
Christianity at Harvard!)
...
>
> Nothing bizarre about it, I should think. It's like accepting a warden's
> pardon for our crime, and walking out a free man. Then, to prove that we
> fully understand what that pardon means, we choose to reform our life to
> justify the pardon we've received. The pardon was given in anticipation that
> we will use that pardon to actually reform our life. But unless we receive
> the pardon to begin with we can never fully prove we're willing to reform
> our life.
It's totally bizarre from a justice point of view.
The pardons are given out completely irrespective of merit.
And better people will not get pardons and worse people
will get them. Lousy justice.
--
Rob Strom
