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Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Phoenix
Date: May 12, 2008 19:34

Why the Christian church has failed society (from a Christian
perspective).

We all know that Constantine mixed the true religion of the Messiah
with that of paganism! Thats why we have Christmas, Easter and many
other Christian/Pagan practices today.

Christians are hypocrites! What else can be said for us?

Mat 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those cursing
you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you and
persecuting you,

Even Atheist know the bible says this… yet, what threads stay at the
top of the list on Christian web pages?

Mat 10:13 “And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it.
But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you.
Mat 10:14 “And whoever does not receive you nor hear your words, when
you leave that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.
Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the
land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that
city.
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Linda Lee
Date: May 12, 2008 19:48

On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Why the Christian church has failed society (from a Christian
> perspective).
>
> We all know that Constantine mixed the true religion of the Messiah
> with that of paganism! Thats why we have Christmas, Easter and many
> other Christian/Pagan practices today.
>
> Christians are hypocrites! What else can be said for us?
>
> Mat 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those cursing
> you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those insulting you and
> persecuting you,
>
> Even Atheist know the bible says this… yet, what threads stay at the
> top of the list on Christian web pages?
>
> Mat 10:13 “And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it.
> But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you.
> Mat 10:14 “And whoever does not receive you nor hear your words, when ...
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: ruth
Date: May 12, 2008 21:10

On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix
> Currently, the “church” is divided into so many fragments because our
> scriptures contain more then one doctrine.
> The fact is that Christians can’t agree one a single issue in
> scriptures and that’s why the church of the “One true God” is divided
> into dozens of fragmented organizations.  But why is that?
> Gal 2:7  But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
> circumcision was unto Peter;

The current "church" is gentile. It is not divided because of the
"circumcised" and the "uncircumcised".

It has become what it is through the early leaders who threw out
anything Jewish.

If you want to experience the "church" of one body, you need to be
part of a Messianic Synogogue.
Ruth
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Linda Lee
Date: May 12, 2008 21:39

On May 12, 3:10 pm, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix
>
>
>> Currently, the “church” is divided into so many fragments because our
>> scriptures contain more then one doctrine.
>> The fact is that Christians can’t agree one a single issue in
>> scriptures and that’s why the church of the “One true God” is divided
>> into dozens of fragmented organizations. But why is that?
>> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
>> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
>> circumcision was unto Peter;
>
> The current "church" is gentile. It is not divided because of the
> "circumcised" and the "uncircumcised".
>
> It has become what it is through the early leaders who threw out
> anything Jewish.
>
> If you want to experience the "church" of one body, you need to be ...
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Carl
Date: May 12, 2008 21:48

On May 12, 3:39 pm, Linda Lee hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
>
> Come on Ruth. The truth is the truth. You're making lame excuses for
> the false apostle Paul.

And we see Linda Lee still clinging to her false claim that she has
never proved even though Luke, the disciples present at the time,
thousands of years of Christian scholars AND the Holy Spirit ALL
accepted as a true apostle of Jesus Christ.

May God bless,
Carl
my website
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Linda Lee
Date: May 12, 2008 22:05

On May 12, 3:10 pm, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix
>
>
>> Currently, the “church” is divided into so many fragments because our
>> scriptures contain more then one doctrine.
>> The fact is that Christians can’t agree one a single issue in
>> scriptures and that’s why the church of the “One true God” is divided
>> into dozens of fragmented organizations. But why is that?
>> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
>> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
>> circumcision was unto Peter;
>
> The current "church" is gentile. It is not divided because of the
> "circumcised" and the "uncircumcised".
>
> It has become what it is through the early leaders who threw out
> anything Jewish.
>
> If you want to experience the "church" of one body, you need to be ...
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: ruth
Date: May 12, 2008 22:14

On May 12, 3:39 pm, Linda Lee hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 3:10 pm, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix
>>
>
>>> Currently, the “church” is divided into so many fragments because our
>>> scriptures contain more then one doctrine.
>>> The fact is that Christians...
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Linda Lee
Date: May 12, 2008 22:55

On May 12, 4:14 pm, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 3:39 pm, Linda Lee hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On May 12, 3:10 pm, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 12, 1:34 pm, Phoenix
>>>
>
>>>> Currently, the “church” is divided into so many fragments because our
>>>> scriptures contain more then one doctrine.
>>>> The fact is that Christians can’t agree one a single issue in
>>>> scriptures and that’s why the church of the “One true God” is divided
>>>> into dozens of fragmented organizations. But why is that?
>>>> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
>>>> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
>>>> circumcision was unto Peter;
>
>>> The current "church" is gentile. It is not divided because of the
>>> "circumcised" and the "uncircumcised". ...
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: ruth
Date: May 12, 2008 23:50

On May 12, 4:55 pm, Linda Lee hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 4:14 pm,
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Re: Apostle Paul: Why the Christian church has failed society         


Author: Phoenix
Date: May 13, 2008 00:27

On May 13, 5:10 am, ruth hotmail.com> wrote:
> And neither did Paul.
>
> Romans 10:4 says, For a goal of Law is Messiah unto justification to
> every one who believes.
> Ruth

My version translates it like this:

Rom 10:4 For Messiah is the goal of the ‘Torah unto righteousness’ to
everyone who believes.

You know what my favorite Paul quote use to be with the "anti-Torah"
crowd was?

Rom 3:31 Do we then nullify the Torah through the belief? Let it not
be! On the contrary, we establish the Torah.

I found I quoted Romans an awful lot and know the book very well. I
have a lot of respect for what your saying Ruth because I use to be
just like you. I've always preferred quoting the Good News of יהושע
Messiah. Clearly your a strong believer and trust me that it is not
my desire to offend you. I'm sorry if I did because that is not my
desire.
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