On Jul 30, 9:20 pm, Lenin
yahoo.com> wrote:> On Jul 30, 2:45 am, Turin
gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gee, with the reports that 1/3 of women in the military make sexual
>> harassment claims against their Male fellow soldiers, it's not
>> surprising that, every time a legitimate crime is allegedly committed
>> by a Man against one of these princesses in uniforms, adorned with
>> chips sewn-in to epaulets, there seems to be a super effort to get to
>> the bottom of it and to advertise the plight.
>
> That's not too high for verbal harassment, Turin. Laughing at
> someone's mother's army boots is a slap in the face when she really
> wanted to be whistled at. So she gets even by saying the opposite
> about you.
You got that right, Dude. And, one of the big reasons she wants that
is so that she can use it against you and eliminate a guy in a job to
make room for a woman. No doubt, herself. What a win-win for the
guy. What a bunch of losers.
>> Whereas, a typical Male victim's case would be forced to languish at
>> the bottom of someone's desk work (probably a female's) ...no doubt
>> to conserve resources and personnel for some “more important” upcoming
>> expose ....on female promotions.
>
> That's the power of the desk job. Guys who hire and promote wives and
> girlfriends started this mess and the same thing is growing in all
> levels of government.
>
>> No doubt, the complicit wimps and chimps - who award themselves the
>> more traditional category of “men” by virtue of attitude and
>> platitude, rather than any personal merit, because they just want to
>> wear the uniform - will proudly explain the above phenomena in terms
>> of their own “hard wiring” to protect the female.
>
> While they're licking their boots.
>
>> But, since - all the same - they always seem to go-along-to-get-along
>> with every liberal trend that comes along to challenge their
>> supposedly proud traditions (whether that be by helping to push their
>> own little princess progeny into the boys' clubs ....that they
>> otherwise wax so cheaply sexist about), then, in either case, it only
>> goes to prove that what we really have here is...
>
>> DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MEN
>
>> Just bury the prego “specialist”, and hold a 21 “gun” memorial,
>> pissing on her grave, for not dying in Iraq or Afghanistan, like she
>> should have. Instead, of the tacit hypocritical sexism of being
>> turned into a martyr for being “a pregnant woman”.
>
> I wonder how over the top the official response would be if a bunch of
> buddies started doing just that to their graves?
Shit, the less behind the uniform, the farther. Of course, it would
mainly be in the name of upholding the old stereotypes, in order to
circumvent debates on liberalism.
For example (begging the question...): "fallen soldiers". Sounds nice
and old school. Perfect cover for a liberal pushing for special
treatment for a particular group. "We'll not have any pissing on the
graves of our FALLEN SOLDIERS! [Harumph!! ...sorry, this is just such
a hot-button issue for me!]"
Obviously, the more vehement with the crocodile emotions, the better
for effecting a phony blindness as to just what exactly what they're
really promoting behind that seemingly traditional facade.
>> FUCK the “pregnant woman” icon.
>
> The military is the right place to do some desensitizing.
Holy shit, I never thought of that. I've become so used to the idea
of the so-called hawks doing sensitivity training for the girls, that
I forgot how antithetical it is to the military. I guess that's
because the Neocon phonies, like Bush, have popularized the phrase as
much as any liberal.
At any rate, I'm completely sick of the phrase "Men and women in our
military who _________ for their country". It isn't true. I mean,
what logical sense is there in the statement "the Men who suck dick
for their country"? Was there ever such a phrase? And, How does that
benefit their country anyway? ...By stimulating the economy? Someone
would try that argument. You know it.
The bitches aren't doing their fair share. They're just the
military's version of the traffic flaggers we have in the construction
industry. All the majority of them do, is sleep their way up and get
pregnant to get out of combat. Pregnant soldiers should also be
treated as deserters.
>> Why should one group of “soldiers”'s lives be considered less
>> expendable than another's just because their own reproductive organs
>> are on the inside, instead of on the outside?
>
> Denial. Feminists use team spirit to sneak their shortcomings in under
> the radar. Who's keeping score if the women are doing less? They're
> part of the team.
Yeah ....the team. Another great overlap, between corporate
capitalism and Genuine Marxism, which gets largely overlooked by those
"masculist" feminists. Masculinists are concerned with Men's
Equality, as feminists are concerned with women's equality. They're
the only true egalitarians, representing Men.
The masculisps, OTOH, want inclusion and token roles within the
women's movement through a modified, make-pretend framework that
offers face-saving "rigid" gender distinctions, which are purely
psychological, and, therefore, worthless in the event of any
transgressions against the Men. Seeking harbor in the women's
movement, and requiring women to be the standard for everything that
Men are allowed to do, strips these mediocre little jerks of their
ability to go on the offensive.
It reminds me of that one fucking cereal commercial where the
outspoken, overweight, bully wife, with a nasty look on her nasty
face, keeps snapping at the tip-toeing, asshole husband. She TRIES to
pick a fight with shit like: "Why??? Do I LOOK like I need to go on
a diet??", and "What else does the box say?" ...upon which this
poster boy for suburban momma's boys, who all need their fucking wussy
asses kicked by city boys, replies: "It says 'Steve' shut up".
And, both smile. *Puke*. Problem resolved. Why? Because a MAN
demeaned HIMSELF before a worthless (specimen of a) woman. He took
emotional abuse from her, performed for her by displaying
intimidation, and finally he backed down so that SHE could save face.
I'd love to see the same commercial with "the roles reversed".
When, it really is give and take, I can deal with it. A "masculist"
feminist, OTOH, has no problem playing that guy's wimpy doormat role.
He only starts huffing and puffing about feeling like a "sissy" (what
a laugh) when the other Men start getting serious about making the
women taste their own medicine. Of cooourse....that kind of guy LIVES
by hiding in the cracks. ANYTHING which outs him, in the sense that
it shows what he's really made of, is a threat to his easy, weaseling
way of life.
>> It's not like their own biological specialty, in carrying a child, is
>> considered some special service to the society, as a whole. The
>> children are considered secondary (to the mothers, as per a “woman”'s
>> right), parasites (living off of the bodies of the hosts, as per a
>> “woman”'s right), and expendable (through abortion, perhaps soon
>> through FOCA, as well).
>
> If society wanted to eliminate the real parasites we wouldn't have to
> worry about FOCA.
Really, we need to weed out the weak. The mentally, physically and -
most of all - the morally weak. They are the constant problem.
Patriarchy or equality ...there's no room for them under either. The
weak are useless garbage who understand, perfectly, that they exist by
breaking things down and by setting the strong against each other.
And, that goes for the "average", too.
They qualify, mostly, under moral enervation.
>> All that makes it really all about the woman.
>
>> So, again, guys who give a shit about their own existences are left
>> asking, Why should this one group of “soldiers”'s lives be considered
>> less expendable than the others? What is it they are left
>> contributing to merit such greater worth? Even, to the whole?
>
>> The truth is that women are contributing less, not more. And, they're
>> hypocritically playing on every last bit of the sympathetic sexism
>> that they can still con out of the simpering momma's boys in the
>> establishment, before the free lunch has finally run out and they're
>> forced to perform their new roles without any more of the special
>> treatment.
>
> The free lunch is already over for most of the capitalist world. Just
> a little more of a push and the party is over for the sluts, unless
> they want to move to a nice little thing that's really been working
> out called the People's Republic of China. But most Americans are too
> dumb to learn Chinese.
Most of them are too dumb to learn American things, too. Don't ask a
capitalist, but capitalism is the mechanism that has brought about all
of this dumbing down. Too many toys, too many gimmicks and
charlatans. Too much entertainment, too little study and rote
learning. They didn't have the stupidity problem in the U.S.S.R. The
Chinese are known, likewise.
>> Like: VAWA and rape shield laws.
>
>> The more of that special SHIT that they can build into the
>> infrastructure, before most Men are ready to break their fucking jaws,
>> due to all of the double standards, in the name of fighting double
>> standards, the longer, after we reach that point, they'll still be
>> able to avoid personal responsibility by merely playing “I'm a woman”,
>> and, thereby, keep Men “legally” controlled without true access to the
>> system or to their own rights.
>
>> And, the question to the symbolic “sexist”, who enjoys his farcical
>> role (because it gets the true competition out of his way for him) is
>> whether or not he's getting the ritual conquest that he's after as a
>> reward for his token accomplishments? An honest Men's Rights Advocate
>> has to admit that, with some of these champions of upsmanship, there
>> does have to be at least some basis to some of the SH claims that are
>> made by the equally non-achieving women who make them ....even if they
>> still are frivolous in the end. A coward always waits for a safe
>> environment in which to make his or her move. And, a coward hiding in
>> a role is the biggest coward of all.
>
>> No. With all of the sexual harassment complaints being filed, it's
>> safe to say that the hollow tradition of weak, redundant men being
>> protective toward women, as a mutual bribery, ISN'T paying off for the
>> jokers. These opportunistic jerks are simply in the way of resolving
>> an important set of issues.
>
>> An EQUAL number of women belong in combat, with no special
>> protections. “Support roles” are bullshit. Those are merely cloaked,
>> sexist set-a-sides for a fixture who wants all of the glory without
>> any of the guts, or to meet and marry a colonel. Enlisted women who
>> get pregnant need to have abortions mandated. Abortion in uniform
>> isn't about “choice”. It's about RESPONSIBILITY. Responsibility
>> precludes choice. A person in a role doesn't get to have one.
>
>> Regardless, this “specialist” who was found murdered doesn't merit any
>> special coverage by the media. It's only because she was a *pregnant*
>> *woman* that this was mistakenly run as a story.
>
> It could make a nice pilot for a popular reality TV series if private
> media ever started reflecting what the men in the population actually
> think. They do make some decent sci-fi horror flicks where women are
> finally getting eaten up and mutilated by monsters instead of serial
> killer men. The sympathy factor is still disproportionate but I think
> it's catching up.
I hear that. If they ever find a way to get the silicone suburban
bimbos out of it, "Reality" TV could become a great vehicle for the
Men's Movement.
>> The simple ubiquity of the abortion movement should be enough to
>> demystify her “you're eating for two” status down to the level of a
>> host with a parasite.
>
> Couldn't we influence the media to blur both into the same? It's not
> much of a jump.
Sure. A good campaign might try showing tapeworms in a positive light
and then cut to pregnant mothers ...the overlap being the fact that
women once went to doctors to get their own tapeworms put in, as a
form of dieting, along with the extra weight that remains after a
pregnancy.
We could also make use of subtle anachronisms and other imagery; such
as segments of the worm voiding the woman's ass in the feces, while
switching to birth scenes. Also, playing upon that natural lifelong
baby fat that many women had in those old photographs could
subliminally suggest them as mothers ...Not, that this is necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fwWdVda8sg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ3ukzEjug8
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> Mike.
> The fact that she's a woman should, likewise,
>> no longer require any special public education. Imaginary female
>> prerogative/privilege should already be bowing to equality. But, I
>> have no problem with having the “woman” side of it do the bowing, if
>> that's what it'll take....
>
>
>> Arrest made in slaying of pregnant N.C. soldier
>
>> FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. - A Fort Bragg soldier was charged with first-
>> degree murder Tuesday in the death of a pregnant colleague whose
>> partially decomposed body was found in a motel bathtub more than a
>> month ago, police said.
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>> Edgar Patino, 27, of nearby Hope Mills, was arrested at his home
>> without incident just after 8 p.m. in the death of Army Spc. Megan L.
>> Touma, said Fayetteville police watch commander Lt. Lars Paul. Paul
>> said Patino was stationed at Fort Bragg but couldn't provide his rank
>> or unit.
>
>> No further details were immediately available, but police have
>> scheduled a 11 a.m. news conference Wednesday.
>
>> Touma, 23, was found dead June 21 at a Fayetteville motel after a
>> maintenance supervisor smelled a foul odor coming from a room with a
>> "Do Not Disturb" sign. A dental specialist from Cold Spring, Ky.,
>> Touma was seven months pregnant and had recently arrived from a base
>> in Germany.
>
>> She was temporarily assigned to Fort Bragg's 19th Replacement Company,
>> and would have eventually been assigned to work at a base dental
>> clinic.
>
>> Police have said a Fort Bragg soldier studying psychological
>> operations was a person of interest in the case. They said the person
>> was training at a school where special operations ranging from raids
>> to reconstruction projects are taught. It wasn't immediately clear if
>> police were referring to Patino.
>
>> Police also investigated a letter sent to The Fayetteville Observer
>> from a person who claimed to be a serial killer responsible for
>> Touma's death. The letter featured a circle-and-cross drawing that had
>> also been drawn in lipstick on the motel room mirror and was the same
>> as one used a generation ago by San Francisco's infamous Zodiac
>> Killer.
>
>> Police have said they believed the letter was written to mislead
>> investigators and the media.
>
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>> "And Turin stretched out his hand over the sea of bullshit; and the
>> Lord caused the bullshit to go back by a strong east wind all that
>> night, and made the bullshit dry land, and the bullshit was divided."
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>> "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
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