I printed the 2-page article "The Iliopsoas Trigger Point" by Susan Parker,
PT. I will read it yet today. I noticed this link referenced a book,
"Myofascial Pain Dysfunction:The Trigger Point Manual, Vol.2" by Travell &
Simons. Should I invest in this book, or is it not necessary yet? Nanny

No, it is quite technical and not appropriate for your level of
understanding. It is also too broad in scope for you. If I were
going to suggest any book, it would be "The Psoas Book"
by Liz Koch.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0965794407/bellevuemassa-20
You have a good awareness of the likely
problem, and Susan Parker's description of how to get to
the trigger points is okay. You will get an"Ohmygoodness,
there it is" moment, and then you won't need the technical
details. Mainly near the naval and the hip crest.
http://www.squidoo.com/psoas

People that have the notion that fibromassage could be
an avenue for unprofessional behaviour should be behind
the door as your husband is finding the right spots, and
realizing that sexy thoughts would be farthest beyond the
distant horizon.

Thanks; I'm glad you were honest. Because I noticed when reading through
the link you gave me, there were some technical jargon and different muscle
names, and I had no idea what they were. Nanny
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I'm doing the heel slides, and if I know the exact location of the lliopsoas
trigger point "triangle", I would do self-massage. That's why I wish I
could see an image of the area described. Nanny
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The "Triangle from hell" is simply different from what most people,
including the professionals, are accustomed to dealing with. Look at
http://www.touchpoint.dk/images/infertility-artikel/trigger.jpg
Starting at the naval, it isn't like you could simply probe around at
the belly button and find it. Because that one is on the portion of
the
psoas that connects to the vertebral column, and you have to go
deep into the abdomen to get there.

The one at the crest of the hip is similar. It's not really at the
crest,
it's more deep than that. That's why the descriptions are telling
about
hip positioning, body rotation, etc.

Sure wish you were here, it's a lot easier to just show you. And the
neat thing is that a lot of women have considerably reduced menstrual
cramping after psoas trigger points have been dealt with. The referred
pain is at the ovaries.

On Feb 16, 9:11�am, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:

Fibromyalgia???? A "BOGUS" diagnosis? Why?
If you have been diagnosed with fibro and Still think that
its a "BOGUS" diagnosis, then you have been "MIS....diagnosed

Fibromyalgia is REAL~~

Ya know, there are a lot of medications that are acknowledged as
being ineffective, but they manage to stay on the market. After all,
they are still being bought. Indeed, they may be effective for some,
within the parameters of placebo, and the more they patient pays
for them, the more effective they will be.

Same goes for diagnoses, such as 'fibromyalgia'. Did you know
that there are many doctors that "don't believe in fibromyalgia"?

A diagnosis of fibromyalgia is a diagnosis. A truly real diagnosis.
But I see it as a bogus diagnosis because it serves as permission
to the medical community to take a patient in pain, do a few labs
that come back "normal", look the patient in the face, smile, and
say "After all our work, we have finally managed to diagnose your
condition, it is fibromyalgia". Then they put it on your chart, and
the next time you show up at the office, the office staff does a
collective rolling of the eyes and knows there isn't much that can
be done for you, except some tranquilizers and pain meds, and
the DEA is making that be more difficult. So they send you to
a pain center to get you off the narcotics you're already on.

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On Feb 16, 9:11�am, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:

Fibromyalgia???? A "BOGUS" diagnosis? Why?
If you have been diagnosed with fibro and Still think that
its a "BOGUS" diagnosis, then you have been "MIS....diagnosed

Fibromyalgia is REAL~~
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ROTFLMAO !
It's only real if you and your doctor lets it be real or you have
underlying conditions that can not be treated.
So if you like wearing a label that is the equivalent to the word trashcan
or waste basket then so be it.

CB

Thanks for taking the time! I'm collecting all this information, perusing
it and trying some of the examples you give. Nanny
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Michael, as much as I appreciate all your help, I'll have to agree with
DoeEyes that Fibromyalgia is a legitimate diagnosis; one most doctors don't
want to address; one that people don't like to discuss; and it is very real!
Sure, there are underlying factors, like TP's; perhaps different sorts of
trauma; other diseases, such as Thyroid. But, the PAIN is all-consuming,
and in every muscle and connecting soft tissue in the entire body. At least
it is for me, and it's been around a long time in my own life. Ya gotta be
a little careful on this group when you make a statement about FM being a
"bogus diagnosis". And, yes, I have the whole myofascial pain as well.
Nanny
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