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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Aug 13, 2008 09:05
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What is the symbol for alt.magick of the present
currents of the Winds of Change?
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25. WU WANG (woo wung)
Innocent Action Unexpected Misfortune
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Author: Monkey MindMonkey Mind Date: Aug 14, 2008 00:31
Meltdarok aol.com> writes:
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> What is the symbol for alt.magick of the present
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I still like Wilhelm's translation as a starting point:
25. Wu Wang / Innocence (The Unexpected)
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-------- above Ch'ien The Creative, Heaven
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--- --- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
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The Judgement
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 14, 2008 08:16
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> 25 - what is innocence regarding alt.magick?
First, alt.magick is not really an entity. It's merely a multifaceted
conversation. It cannot be "innocent" in itself. Innocence is the state in
which we expect nothing. Thus everything is a surprise.
"Magic is the Highest, most Absolute, and most Divine Knowledge of Natural
Philosophy, advanced in its works and wonderful operations by a right
understanding of the inward and occult virtue of things; so that true Agents
being applied to proper Patients, strange and admirable effects will thereby
be produced. Whence magicians are profound and diligent searchers into
Nature; they, because of their skill, know how to anticipate an effect, the
which to the vulgar shall seem to be a miracle." -- The Lemegeton
Thus the study of magic works against innocence. It's the task of the
magician to anticipate effects, not to be surprised by them.
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Author: MelkorMelkor Date: Aug 15, 2008 09:55
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:16:54 -0700, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>> 25 - what is innocence regarding alt.magick?
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>First, alt.magick is not really an entity...
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Aug 16, 2008 12:07
Monkey Mind wrote, On 8/14/2008 3:31 AM:
> Meltdarok aol.com> writes:
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>> What is the symbol for alt.magick of the present
>> currents of the Winds of Change?
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> I still like Wilhelm's translation as a starting point:
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> 25. Wu Wang / Innocence (The Unexpected)
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Alfred Huang translates Wu Wang as "Without Falsehood".
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Aug 16, 2008 16:26
On Aug 16, 9:19 am, "Searles O'Dubhain"
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> Is this the fate of a god?
It's the fate of one who gives oneself wholly to imagination.
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Date: Aug 16, 2008 16:54
"Kisai" gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 16, 9:19 am, "Searles O'Dubhain"
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> Is this the fate of a god?
"It's the fate of one who gives oneself wholly to imagination."
Becoming one with one's god.
Searles O'Dubhain
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:16
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>> The horse is a symbol of the the earth as the dragon is a symbol of
>> heaven. The magician can amass earthly wealth through a "right
>> understanding of he inward and occult virtue of things". Yet, as Crowley
>> notes in Chapter 27 of the Book of Lies:
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>> THE SORCERER
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>> A Sorcerer by the power of his magick had subdued
>> all things to himself.
>> Would he travel? He could fly through space more
>> swiftly than the stars.
>> Would he eat, drink, and take his pleasure? there ...
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:20
Kisai wrote, On 8/16/2008 7:26 PM:
> On Aug 16, 9:19 am, "Searles O'Dubhain"
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>> Is this the fate of a god?
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> It's the fate of one who gives oneself wholly to imagination.
Just how much imagination do you mean?
Of course, being a being on this planet limits
how much imagination you can imagine there is
anywho.
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