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Author: PureOnePureOne Date: Aug 26, 2007 22:50
Everyone knows that science has been proven wrong time and again, but
why do you think that is? My opinion is because science works with
assumptions that depend on previous knowledge. So its easy to build
from the start and get something more complex. As mathematicians know
though, complexity leads to total chaos. Say for example you were
working with electronics and found that resisters limited current.
>From that knowledge you learned you could actually store a charge with
a capacitor. Then from there someone discovered that electricity
could actually be amplified with a transformer, to create higher
voltages.
Amazing, but then we get so complicated that we forget the source of
the invention is actually a battery, and we have limited supplies of
batteries. Then after that we come to find out batteries don't even
work correctly without wires, and we find out there is limited
supplies of superconducting gold. Finally we realize that we can't
transmit the power without an electric grid, stretching across the
whole country. Then in all the confusion we start to have blackouts
everywhere, when we should have enough energy to supply everyone.
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Date: Aug 26, 2007 23:49
On Aug 27, 7:50 am, PureOne gmail.com> wrote:
> Everyone knows that science has been proven wrong time and again, but
> why do you think that is?
It's part of the scientific process. Every theory is eventually shown
to be incomplete, and is replaced by a more powerful and comprehensive
theory, which is replaced in its turn.
> We literally know nothing, and live in a sea of technology no one
> understands.
No. We know quite a lot, though not everything, and live in a sea of
technology that quite a few people understand - obviously, not you.
Again, nobody has mastered every human technology, nor even every
aspect of any givien technology, but if you ask nicely, in the right
forum, you can almost always get good advice.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Author: Bob MyersBob Myers Date: Aug 27, 2007 10:58
> Everyone knows that science has been proven wrong time and again, but
> why do you think that is?
Right off the bat, you've revealed how little you know about the
subject you're trying to discuss. Two fundamental problems
in the above:
1. Statement that begin with "everyone knows" almost
always winds up talking about something that "everyone"
MISUNDERSTANDS. This is a perfect example.
2. "Science" has not been "proven wrong time and time
again," for the simple reason that science itself is not a body
of knowledge, nor any particular collection of "facts."
Science is a PROCESS which we use to sort out truth
from a lot of things that we might like to think were so, but
which really aren't. As that sort of tool, it has a track record
far better than any alternative that mankind has attempted to
use so far.
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Author: Simon S AysdieSimon S Aysdie Date: Aug 27, 2007 12:10
On Aug 27, 11:04 am, John Fields austininstruments.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:33:40 GMT, play...@ always.edu (Doug Bashford)
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Jon Slaughter said about:
>> Re: Why Science is Ridiculous
>
>>> When people stop worshiping opra, britney,
>>> paris, etc and start opening a book... hell, I guess any book will do...
>>> even if its about those people, as long as they read it, then we've made a
>>> step in the right direction.
>
>> any book will do... ??
>
>> Why is reading garbage better than (say,)
>> watching garbage TV?
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Author: Jon SlaughterJon Slaughter Date: Aug 27, 2007 12:15
"Doug Bashford" always.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Jon Slaughter said about:
> Re: Why Science is Ridiculous
>
>> When people stop worshiping opra, britney,
>> paris, etc and start opening a book... hell, I guess any book will do...
>> even if its about those people, as long as they read it, then we've made
>> a
>> step in the right direction.
>
>
> any book will do... ??
>
> Why is reading garbage better than (say,)
> watching garbage TV?
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Author: kTkT Date: Aug 27, 2007 12:16
Simon S Aysdie wrote:
> On Aug 27, 11:04 am, John Fields austininstruments.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:33:40 GMT, play...@ always.edu (Doug Bashford)
>> wrote:
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>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Jon Slaughter said about:
>>> Re: Why Science is Ridiculous
>>>> When people stop worshiping opra, britney,
>>>> paris, etc and start opening a book... hell, I guess any book will do...
>>>> even if its about those people, as long as they read it, then we've made a
>>>> step in the right direction.
>>> any book will do... ??
>>> Why is reading garbage better than (say,)
>>> watching garbage TV?
>> By reading garbage at least some of the technicalities of the
>> written language (like spelling and punctuation) might seep through.
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Author: mikamika Date: Aug 27, 2007 12:20
On Aug 27, 10:54 am, "Tim Williams" wrote:
> LOL. Nicely self-satirical piece.
Unfortunately, he's not in on the joke. All evidence seems to point
to "PureOne" taking himself and his posts quite seriously.
> Hmm, I suspect this is my first post to the other four NGs. Hi!
Hi.
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Author: Barry LennoxBarry Lennox Date: Aug 27, 2007 14:56
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:40:28 +0000, Michael Lewis
sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
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>All technology builds upon itself, it's been that way since the cave men
>invented the wheel. Can you imagine cars using large rubber triangles?
>Stone Age to Bronze Age to Iron age to... Well, you see my point. Yes,
>life is complex now. Would you rather live in a cave shivering? Because
>you know, knocking two rocks together to make fire is evil technology
>also...
Indeed all technology can be used for evil or good.
"Virtually every major technological advance in the history of the
human specie
-- back to the invention of stone tools and the
domestication of fire-- has been ethically ambiguous"
by Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the
Dark
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Author: NevermoreNevermore Date: Aug 27, 2007 19:00
In Tim Williams wrote:
> From: "Tim Williams" charter.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.religion.wicca,sci.electronics.design
> Subject: Re: Why Science is Ridiculous
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:54:19 -0500
>
> LOL. Nicely self-satirical piece.
Never underestimate the dead-seriousness of the self-evident hypocrite.
> Has some grammatical errors though.
>
> Hmm, I suspect this is my first post to the other four NGs. Hi!
>
Jello shots all around.
Nevermore (if the scientific method could repeat it, it wouldn't be
witchcraft)
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Author: DonaldDonald Date: Aug 27, 2007 19:51
PureOne wrote:
I think is trying to cover up the Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
resignation.
There is a Bushite everywhere, lying to the American people.
How many more to get through before Bush gets castrated.
don
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