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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Janine Starscream
Date: Jun 1, 2008 08:38

On May 31, 10:39 am, V aol.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:18�am, Joseph Littleshoes isp.com> wrote:
>
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>
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>> GRATIS DICTUM
>> --------------------------
>
>> With Bush we got 9/11 and the response.
>
>> What will the new C in C be challenged with?
>
>> An convenient new threat every 8 years?
>> --
>
>> Joseph Littleshoes
>
>> � � "The two main political parties ruled alternately as if by tacit
>> agreement. �Politically they were practically indistinguishable (one
>> perhaps a shade more liberal) but in both camps supporters were more
>> swayed by personalities than by issues. �Both parties were heavily
>> dependent on the large industrial conglomerates. �Corruption was
>> widespread, the conglomerates dictated economic policy, and with few
>> outstanding exceptions, politicians' reputations were low."
>
> We are entering the post crude phase of our existence and we will see
> much more turmoil in the near future than just the few killings that
> have come our of our current war effort.
>
> You see, we will be at war over crude until the last buckets have been
> sucked from the earth...so get used to it.
>
> As we would leave the Middle East...China or Russia would step in.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Resource-Wars-Landscape-Conflict-Introduction/d...
>
> China has triple our pop and a fraction of our oil reserves within its
> borders.
>
> So either we play bodyguard to the Middle East or China or Russia
> will.
>
> You like typing on the 'puter don't you?
>
> Well, without the crude to make the diesel to power the train that
> brings the coal to the power plant you would not be typing on the
> 'puter.
>
> But that is not all.
>
> We are entering an era of peak natural gas, peak water, peak food,
> peak uranium. So many areas of new conflict are in our future.
>
> Carving up a barrel of crude oil, we can see that barrel supplies many
> of our necessities of life.
>
> Out of each barrel of crude we make the following products:
>
> 42%% of each barrel of crude is used for Gasoline
>
> 21%% Fuel oil - Diesel
>
> 8%%  Jet Fuel and Kerosene
>
> 8%% Petrochemicals
>
> Such as....
>
> Solvents Bearing Grease Vaseline Ink Floor Wax Ball-point Pens
> Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires
> Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags
> Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet
> Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers
> Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap
> Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone
> Deodorant Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life
> Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs
> Electrician's Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops
> Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair
> Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive
> Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood
> Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots
> Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion
> Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains
> Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football
> Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs
> Combs CD's Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses
> Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes
> Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures
> Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Soft
> Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream
> Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste
>
> 6%% Propane
>
> 4%% Heating Oil
>
> 3%% Asphalt and Road oil
>
> 2%% Petroleum coke
>
> 1%% Lubricants
>
> All these products will be history someday.
>
> Have you ever thought about how much of our life is dependent on
> natural gas for cooking, heating and hot water?
>
> How many of our homes are set up for efficient heating with natural
> methods such as wood, pellet, passive solar?
>
> We will run out of natural gas, just as we deplete our crude supplies
> in the near future.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/High-Noon-Natural-Gas-Energy/dp/1931498539
>
> Natural gas is a raw material in many of our products we depend on.
>
> Almost all the helium we produce comes from natural gas.
>
> Propane, synthetic fertilizers, ammonia?
>
> They are totally dependent on natural gas.
>
> Our population boom was fueled by synthetic fertilizers made from
> natural; gas. Once the gas dries up so does the fertilizer and a
> shortage of fertilizer equals a shortage of food.
>
> Natural; gas is also used as an energy source to produce steel, glass,
> paper, clothing, brick, electricity
>
> http://www.enotes.com/how-products-encyclopedia/natural-gas
>
> http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/icm/2003/4-14-2003/natgasn.html
>
> http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/natural...
>
> You still have some valuable time left to prepare for what awaits you
> down the road.
>
> We are in the 'Indian Summer' of a carbon based world. Don't wait
> until the winter sets in to start work on your preparedness efforts.
>
> We can't depend on the President to come clean with the public. All
> his energies are spent just trying to keep the oil flowing. He can't
> admit that the oil will stop in the not so distant future, no matter
> what we do. It is a problem beyond his as well as all of our control.
>
> As they say in 12 Step programs - admitting you have a problem is step
> 1. And our country cannot admit it, after all, admitting this problem
> would raise hell with our retirement funds. And until we can admit it,
> we cannot begin on our long road to a 'semblance' of recovery.
>
> And in the big picture, we can't fix the problem, we can only postpone
> the inevitable. But buying a little more time would make things much
> more livable in the not so distant future than the current path we are
> headed in.
>
> The world is in a death spiral and politicians as well as industry are
> pretending this problem does not exist. We can only blame ourselves,
> for it is just how we have built our world over the years....too many
> people, living outside of natures intended balance and not an infinite
> supply of energy to fuel all our demands.
>
> It would be one thing if we all reverted back to rural living, burning
> trees for fuel and housing and living within our comfortable means
> allotted to us by nature, as our ancestors did back in the day. But
> ten billion people can't burn the trees! (Ten billion people is a
> conservative estimate of world population in the not so distant
> future. We are at 7 people billion now.)
>
> The World Coal Institute estimates world energy reserves as follows:
>
> "At current production levels coal will be available for at least the
> next 155 years compared to 41 years for oil and 65 years for gas."
>
> http://www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=21
>
> Even though this was written a few years ago and it is based on
> 'current production and consumption' it gives the same haunting
> message to the generations to come.
>
> We may not exactly see the end of our free flowing energy as we know
> it - but some of our descendants will in the not so distant future.
> This is the legacy they will inherit from us. But before the energy
> dries up completely massive changes in our world will have taken
> place.
>
> Our population has grown to levels where it has passed the point of no
> return for supporting a sustainable human population as we know it
> today when it comes to their energy demands.
>
> And leading the pack of over consumers is the USA.
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption
>
> Consumption is ingrained in us and we know no other way. And even if
> we wished to amend our ways, how could all our retirement funds take
> the hit? America is built on borrowed money, spending and consumerism.
>
> And what does all that consumerism lead to?
>
> It leads to the mess we are in now and the bigger mess the world will
> be in once India and China pick up momentum to copycat the envious
> lifestyle that they have held in high esteem as the 'American Dream'
>
> You see, the problem is not with the earth having enough land for all
> its people - the problem is with earth providing ad infinitum for all
> the needs the people crave.
>
> The more people born, the more heat is produced from their life and
> all their cravings, As such, the warmer and more polluted the earth
> gets and the more energy they all use and the earths resources are
> depleted.
>
> Fueling the problem of consumption is the games the Federal and World
> banks play with interest rates. They manage the economies in ways to
> fuel consumption and mask the real trend. Witness the recent cries for
> Federal bankers to lower interest rates...so the stock market can go
> up...fueled by spending of the consumer.
>
> It is drug habit that Greenspan got us hooked on and we just can't get
> away from.
>
> Our economy is not based on sustainable health - it is based low
> interest credit to encourage compulsive spending, debt and living a
> life of constant consumption with a 'disposable mentality' when it
> comes to durable goods.
>
> All this consumption to artificially fuel our economy to make our
> retirement funds only go up contributes to more and more global
> warming and the depletion of our natural resources. Then the
> governments juggle the numbers to make the inflation figures seem
> artificially low, so everyone's retirement portfolio will make them
> happy so they will continue to buy and consume more...and on it
> goes....IT IS ALL WE KNOW
>
> You see, no other animal destroys its environment except mankind. We
> are the only ones that do not accept and live within our comfortable
> means. We not only debt with our finances we debt with our
> environment. What we are borrowing in terms of petroleum, coal and
> natural gas takes millions of years for nature to make. Yet we are
> using it all up in just a few hundred years...we can never pay it
> back.
>
> I think our countries future will be....'America...a Democratic,
> Communist Nation Under God.'
>
> And maybe I am using the wrong ...
>
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I LOVE COMMUNISM AS LONG AS ITS A PARTY!

Seriously though, there are so many technologies that if implemented
on a mass scale would make this entire arguement and the ill-gained
fortunes of so many powerful families moot points.

Sure people laugh about the concept of cheap alternative technologies,
but it's only because they've accepted the programming that it's good
for them to laugh at things they are neither used to or that might
threaten (i have no idea how they get this idea to actually stick in
"their" minds, it's a miracle way beyond walking on water) the present
way of living (as if it's so great anyway).

I could link you to these technes but you're smart and savvy
majikiaens so you'll know of what I speak anyway. This planet's
biggest problem is inertia, and it comes in so many forms. Some may
say that I contribute to this, but no, that is not the case at all.

Jesus is on vacation, you lumps are on your own for now. Besides a
post-apocalyptic world could be a lot of fun. More tank girl/double
dragon than mad maxx/terminator (besides the super-pooters don't seem
to be all that homicidal anyway, actually they're kinda cute).. ::))

Only Time will tell, but he's on vacation too.
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