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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Richard Ellis
Date: Sep 6, 2007 13:38

On 2007-09-06 10:37:00 +0700, Douglas cox.net> said:
>
>
> Richard Ellis wrote:
>> On 2007-09-04 22:35:21 +0700, Rufus Opus gmail.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Am I? OK... I am sure you are right.
>>
>
> Yes you are.

I am sure you think so.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> I merely point out that Tom isn't quite
>>>> normal. And yes, I do think tht is OK to do. if it's OK with you. And
>>>> if it isn't Ok with you in fact.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is "normal" to mean heterosexual white anglo saxon protetant?
>>
>>
>> No, normal generally means the those falling in the range of + or - a
>> defined number of standard deviations from the mean. As I recall.
>>
>
> Heh, normal is nothing more than average besides the fact that people
> have a tendency to not tell the complete truth in certain kinds of
> surveys... particularly Geriatrics and Sex and Homosexuality. Look
> up recent studies and you might learn something but I doubt you have
> any interest in learning from your posts here.

So post some Douglas. Don't just talk, do...
>
>
>>>
>>> In point of fact, bi-sexuality, homosexuality, and heterosexuality are
>>> all normal modes of human sexual expression. It's even (gasp) found in
>>> other animals.
>>
>>
>> Yah. Sure they are. I assume you can provide scientific evidence to
>> support your essertion that homosexuality or bisexuality are normal?
>>
>
> Natural Geographic provides some info:
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
>
> "It will take a long time before such ideas reach the mainstream. But
> Vasey sees Bagemihl's "exhaustively and meticulously researched" book
> as a watershed. "His work will make it increasingly difficult for
> anyone to write off the whole idea of homosexuality in animals."

erm, I hate to be a party pooper, but where does it say that same-sex
sexuality in animals is normal? In fact, where does it give any
incidence rates or other statistice at all?

Just makes you feel goog that you aren't alone does it?

Correct me if I am wrong but you havent made any point at all in
respect of the normalcy or otherwise of homosexual behaviour in humans.
Or did I miss it? Just self-justifying froth I suspect.
> Further reading:
> * Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by
> Bruce Bagemihl, St Martin's Press, New York (1999"
>
> The full article at:
> http://www.subversions.com/french/pages/science/animals.html

And not a statistic anywehere.
>
> "Gay animals out of the closet?
> First-ever museum display shows 51 species exhibiting homosexuality"
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/

Nope, not here either.
> News-Medical.Net
>
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>
> Homosexuality is quite common in the animal kingdom, especially among
> herding animals. Many animals solve conflicts by practicing same gender
> sex."
> http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

Nor here. Not a one.
>
> "A wild, and gay, kingdom"
> http://www.world-science.net/othernews/061024_gay-animals.htm
>
> Let's see you produce some evidence to the contrary.

lets see you address the point that was actually being discussed. And
some serious support for whatever point you think you are trying to
make would prevent you looking pretty silly Douglas.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>> Do you protest same sex marriages, beat down gays at the park, preach
>>>>> that AIDS is a punishment from God while you're at it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now having byuilt a straw man, you proceed to address it and not the
>>>> point I actually made. You are engaging in political correctness at its
>>>> most insidious. Get over yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Having exposed you as the bigot you are and hyperbolized it to make a
>>> point, you dodge and weave to avoid the uncomfortable fact that you're
>>> a homophobic troglodyte.
>>
>>
>> LOL. Homophobic. Troglodite. Is that really the best you can do when
>> trying to insult me? You will have to do better than that...
>>
>
> It was a decent description that fits quite well.

Evidence? Silly boy. Or does do you feel threatened by anyone who takes
a rational and normal approach to sexuality? Seems you feel the
compulsion to automatically insult and denigrate so you dont have to
actually address the point which was made.

Since I am sure you would have provided evidence that homosexuality or
bisexuality is normal, one assumes there isn't any, in which case, you
would be better advised to practice that hermetic discipline of
remaining silent.



I sure hope someone teaches you how to tidy your posts up Douglas.
>>
>> Are you Toms gay lover?
>
> Heh, you are the one that probably wants to be... your sort of
> bashing is a tell-tale sign of repressed homosexuality.
>
> -Douglas

Ah, the old 'projection' ploy is it? I can see a London bus is dirty so
it means I need washing. Is that right Douglas?

A bit wimpy for a serious argument...
--
Rich
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