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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 14, 2007 08:21
Having crossed the Abyss, the magician has moved beyond individuality. What
remains is something that we can scarcely recognize as
consciousness at all. It might be described (inadequately and contrarily,
of course) as "unconscious consciousness". It is oceanic. This is the
vast, bitter sea of Binah, the lowest of the three so-called "Supernal
Sephiroth" of the Tree of Life.
We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited way.
They are so abstract that they have no substance in and of themselves. They
are simply principles and can only be recognized when compared with other
principles. Qabalistically, they become much more comprehensible when
viewed as a tripartite system. "Binah" means "Understanding". What is
being understood is the Wisdom of Chokmah, which is the expression of
Kether, the Crown.
We can begin to grasp the abstract function of Binah by observing it in
action on the lower sephiroth that reflect it. In Hod, the inarticulate
feelings of Netzach coalesce into concepts which can then be manipulated as
if they were objects. In Geburah, the authority of Chesed becomes power
which can then be used. In Binah the Logos, the Word of God, takes form and
thus is the universe created.
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Aug 14, 2007 18:08
On Aug 14, 11:21 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:> Having crossed the Abyss, the magician has moved beyond individuality. What
> remains is something that we can scarcely recognize as
> consciousness at all. It might be described (inadequately and contrarily,
> of course) as "unconscious consciousness". It is oceanic. This is the
> vast, bitter sea of Binah, the lowest of the three so-called "Supernal
> Sephiroth" of the Tree of Life.
Out of interest, what is your source for these assertions?
> We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited way.
> They are so abstract that they have no substance in and of themselves.
The Supernals are part of an idea of an imaginary tree. So you are
entirely correct in saying that they have no substance in and of
themselves.
> They
> are simply principles and can only be recognized when compared with other
> principles. Qabalistically, they become much more comprehensible when
> viewed as a tripartite system. "Binah" means "Understanding". What is
> being understood is the Wisdom of Chokmah, which is the expression of
> Kether, the Crown.
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 14, 2007 22:26
> On Aug 14, 11:21 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> Having crossed the Abyss, the magician has moved beyond individuality.
>> What
>> remains is something that we can scarcely recognize as
>> consciousness at all. It might be described (inadequately and
>> contrarily,
>> of course) as "unconscious consciousness". It is oceanic. This is the
>> vast, bitter sea of Binah, the lowest of the three so-called "Supernal
>> Sephiroth" of the Tree of Life.
>
> Out of interest, what is your source for these assertions?
Scholarship and experience. Yours may vary. I do not claim them to be
independently verifiable.
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Aug 15, 2007 06:45
On Aug 15, 1:26 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>> We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited way.
>>> They are so abstract that they have no substance in and of themselves.
>
>> The Supernals are part of an idea of an imaginary tree. So you are
>> entirely correct in saying that they have no substance in and of
>> themselves.
>
> Words are not what they refer to. So that must mean they refer to nothing
> real in and of themselves. Right?
No. It does mean that they have no substance in and of themselves,
though, being insubstantial things, and all.
>> Binah is the principle of form.
>
> Who says so?
To risk stating the bleeding obvious, I do.
> Why?
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 15, 2007 07:48
> On Aug 15, 1:26 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>>> We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited
>>>> way.
>>>> They are so abstract that they have no substance in and of themselves.
>>
>>> The Supernals are part of an idea of an imaginary tree. So you are
>>> entirely correct in saying that they have no substance in and of
>>> themselves.
>>
>> Words are not what they refer to. So that must mean they refer to
>> nothing
>> real in and of themselves. Right?
>
> No. It does mean that they have no substance in and of themselves,
> though, being insubstantial things, and all.
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Aug 15, 2007 08:48
On Aug 15, 10:48 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> On Aug 15, 1:26 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>>>> We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited
>>>>> way.
>>>>> They are so abstract that they have no substance in and of themselves.
>
>>>> The Supernals are part of an idea of an imaginary tree. So you are
>>>> entirely correct in saying that they have no substance in and of
>>>> themselves.
>
>>> Words are not what they refer to. So that must mean they refer to
>>> nothing
>>> real in and of themselves. Right?
>
>> No. It does mean that they have no substance in and of themselves,
>> though, being insubstantial things, and all. ...
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Author: BassosBassos Date: Aug 15, 2007 14:54
"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
news:fuWdnap4sKxqWlzbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com...> Having crossed the Abyss, the magician has moved beyond individuality.
Is it the magician who moves ?
> What remains is something that we can scarcely recognize as
> consciousness at all. It might be described (inadequately and contrarily,
> of course) as "unconscious consciousness".
Why is that inadequate ?
> It is oceanic. This is the vast, bitter sea of Binah,
Bitter ?
at binah ?
impossible.
> the lowest of the three so-called "Supernal
> Sephiroth" of the Tree of Life.
>
> We can appreciate the Supernals individually only in a very limited way.
Nice sentence.
The sheer amount of possible interpretations of your sentence makes it
almost supernal on it's own.
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Author: BassosBassos Date: Aug 15, 2007 14:56
>
> A drop of water is drop-shaped. The water in a cup is cup-shaped. The
> form may change, and in this sense may not define the water itself,
> but the form is certainly there, otherwise the water wouldn't be there
> - form is a necessary prerequisite for matter.
Creation begins with Beth, a house, a place to build something.
Well said Erwin.
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 15, 2007 15:11
> On Aug 15, 10:48 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>
>>>>> Binah is the principle of form.
>>
>>>> Who says so?
>>
>>> To risk stating the bleeding obvious, I do.
>>
>> Heh. Then why ask me for the very same bleedingly obvious answer?
>
> I didn't. I asked you what your source was.
Which is the same question, actually.
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 15, 2007 15:18
"Bassos" wrote in message
news:46c37619$0$229$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>
> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:fuWdnap4sKxqWlzbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com...>> Having crossed the Abyss, the magician has moved beyond individuality.
>
> Is it the magician who moves ?
We've been over this before. "Moves" is metaphorical. What moves when you
go from sad to happy?
>> What remains is something that we can scarcely recognize as
>> consciousness at all. It might be described (inadequately and
>> contrarily,
>> of course) as "unconscious consciousness".
>
> Why is that inadequate ?
Because it's incomplete.
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