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Author: whyzardwhyzard Date: Oct 29, 2007 19:59
i don't think saint john was right about that prophecy
those women are so covered in robes
we can't even tell if they're females or males
i don't think that babylon is a whore
i think saint john is a little off on his theology
and furthermore
nostradamus and his 1999 thing didn't happen
saint john and nostradamus should go down in history as the most
mediocre prophets in history even before history happened
they only predicted small things
the great things they completely got wrong
crowley warned us about this
the symbols are all wrong
yeah, the symbols are all wrong
after 9,000 years of written history
we have now learned 1 thing
most prophets can't see beyond 500 or 2,000 years
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Author: OfframpOfframp Date: Oct 29, 2007 22:29
On Oct 30, 2:59 am, whyzard mail.com> wrote:
> saint john and nostradamus should go down in history as the most
> mediocre prophets in history even before history happened
What did St John predict?
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Author: TomTom Date: Oct 30, 2007 08:01
> On Oct 30, 2:59 am, whyzard mail.com> wrote:
>>> saint john and nostradamus should go down in history as the most
>> mediocre prophets in history even before history happened
>
> What did St John predict?
A rather spectacular panorama of disasters presaging the second coming of
Jesus and the Judgment called the "Book of Revelation". Last book of the
Christian bible.
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Author: OfframpOfframp Date: Oct 30, 2007 12:27
On Oct 30, 5:29 am, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:> On Oct 30, 2:59 am, whyzard mail.com> wrote:
>>> saint john and nostradamus should go down in history as the most
>> mediocre prophets in history even before history happened
>
> What did St John predict?
Rather, which of St John's prophecies has been shown to be
unsuccessful?
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Author: TomTom Date: Oct 30, 2007 22:14
> On Oct 30, 5:29 am, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:>> On Oct 30, 2:59 am, whyzard mail.com> wrote:
>>>>> saint john and nostradamus should go down in history as the most
>>> mediocre prophets in history even before history happened
>>
>> What did St John predict?
>
> Rather, which of St John's prophecies has been shown to be
> unsuccessful?
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Author: mikamika Date: Oct 31, 2007 11:12
For a thread with "whore" in the title, this one is sadly
disappointing.
On Oct 30, 10:14 pm, "Tom" wrote:
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> All this has been well researched and reported in a great little book called
> "When Prophecies Fail", by Leon Festinger.
This isn't the first time you've recommended that book. I'll add it
to my list already. Right after "Spiritual Materialism".
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Author: TomTom Date: Oct 31, 2007 13:29
> For a thread with "whore" in the title, this one is sadly
> disappointing.
>
> On Oct 30, 10:14 pm, "Tom" wrote:
>>
>> All this has been well researched and reported in a great little book
>> called
>> "When Prophecies Fail", by Leon Festinger.
>
> This isn't the first time you've recommended that book. I'll add it
> to my list already. Right after "Spiritual Materialism".
"Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", by Chogyam Trungpa.
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Author: mikamika Date: Oct 31, 2007 15:47
On Oct 31, 1:29 pm, "Tom" wrote:
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> "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", by Chogyam Trungpa.
>
> The image of "cutting through" is a powerful one in Theravada Buddhism.
> According to the teachings, we are bound to samsara, the inescapable and
> ultimately illusory cycle of life and death, the wheel of karmic obligation,
> by ten fetters, including worship of the self, attachment to ritual,
> paralyzing doubt, sensual desire, conceit, ignorance, materialism of both
> the physical and the spiritual, ignorance,
Ignorance: a vice so nice it's listed twice?
> and anger/fear. In order to free
> oneself from these fetters they must be cut through by confronting oneself
> with each of them and piercing the illusions that they produce.
Does he give specific instructions on how to pierce the illusions?
I've been facing a couple of these fetters the past few weeks. It
sucks (for now). It would be interesting if there were other tricks
people used besides meditation.
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Oct 31, 2007 17:31
Tom wrote, On 10/31/2007 4:29 PM:
>> For a thread with "whore" in the title, this one is sadly
>> disappointing.
>>
>> On Oct 30, 10:14 pm, "Tom" wrote:
>>> All this has been well researched and reported in a great little book
>>> called
>>> "When Prophecies Fail", by Leon Festinger.
>> This isn't the first time you've recommended that book. I'll add it
>> to my list already. Right after "Spiritual Materialism".
>
> "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", by Chogyam Trungpa.
>
> The image of "cutting through" is a powerful one in Theravada Buddhism.
> According to the teachings, we are bound to samsara, the inescapable and
> ultimately illusory cycle of life and death, the wheel of karmic obligation,
> by ten fetters, including worship of the self, attachment to ritual,
> paralyzing doubt, sensual desire, conceit, ignorance, materialism of both ...
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Oct 31, 2007 17:35
mika wrote, On 10/31/2007 6:47 PM:
> On Oct 31, 1:29 pm, "Tom" wrote:
>> "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism", by Chogyam Trungpa.
>>
>> The image of "cutting through" is a powerful one in Theravada Buddhism.
>> According to the teachings, we are bound to samsara, the inescapable and
>> ultimately illusory cycle of life and death, the wheel of karmic obligation,
>> by ten fetters, including worship of the self, attachment to ritual,
>> paralyzing doubt, sensual desire, conceit, ignorance, materialism of both
>> the physical and the spiritual, ignorance,
>
> Ignorance: a vice so nice it's listed twice?
>
>> and anger/fear. In order to free
>> oneself from these fetters they must be cut through by confronting oneself
>> with each of them and piercing the illusions that they produce.
>
> Does he give specific instructions on how to pierce the illusions?
> I've been facing a couple of these fetters the past few weeks. It
> sucks (for now). It would be interesting if there were other tricks ...
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