Re: THE PEDOPHILIA OF MOHAMMED THE PROPHET WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN WRONG--JUST LIKE SLAVERY.
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Re: THE PEDOPHILIA OF MOHAMMED THE PROPHET WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN WRONG--JUST LIKE SLAVERY.         

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Author: marques de sade
Date: Jul 6, 2008 15:41

if you can't tell me in one sentence who scofield is, then i'm not
going to read this cut-and-pasted article...

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:05:38 -0500, Topaz hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:44:35 GMT, jesucristo2@netscape.net (marques de
>sade) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:14:21 -0500, Topaz hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Judeo Christians think it is the "end times"
>>
>>the return of christ is one of the fundamental doctrines. correct.
>>
>>>even though it has been
>>>the "end times" for over two thousand years so far.
>>
>>until the savior returns, it's not 'officially' the end... they
>>have a verse that says 'no one knows the day nor the hour' and
>>'the lord comes like a thief in the night'... eg: unannounced.
>>
>>> They think the one
>>>and only hope is for Jesus to return and straighten everything out.
>>
>>well duh? that's the whole point i thought...
>>
>>>And a big part of the plan is the destroy the world. They think wars
>>>and everything being blown up is a great thing because it means Jesus
>>>will return soon.
>>
>>i don't know about all that. show me one christian that advocates
>>destroying the world... your statement isn't too convincing...
>>
>>>
>>> Marxists were murderous lowlifes
>>
>>you're one to speak...
>>
>>>but they said religion is the opium
>>>of the people. There obviously is some truth to that.
>>
>>materialism can be as much an opiate...
>>
>>> Enemies often
>>>have some truth in their arguments. On top of the opium there is the
>>>Jewish propaganda started by Scofield.
>>
>>can you elaborate? never heard of scofield...
>
>
>WHY JUDEO-CHRISTIANS SUPPORT WAR
>C. E. Carlson
>
>The French author, Alexis de Tocqueville, wrote "Democracy in America"
>when he traveled here in the first third of the 19th Century. In
>ringing tones he sang the praises of America's invulnerable strength
>and spirit. He attributed its greatness to its citizens' sense of
>morality... even with the abundant church attendances he observed in
>America. De Tocqueville wrote in French and is credited with this
>familiar quote: "AMERICA IS GREAT BECAUSE SHE IS GOOD, and if America
>ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great."
>
>De Tocqueville could see the power of America, but he could not have
>known in 1830 that she was soon to be under an attack aimed at its
>churches and the very sense of morality that he extolled.
>
>First, there was a War Between the States, which scarred the powerful
>young nation in its strapping youth. A worse attack on America was to
>commence near the turn of the 20th century. This was the onset of an
>attack on American Christianity that continues unabated against the
>traditional, Christ-following church. This attack, which author
>Gordon Ginn calls "The final Apostasy", began with a small very
>wealthy and determined European political movement. It had a dream,
>and the American churches stood in its way.
>
>The World Zionist movement, as its Jewish founders called themselves,
>had plans to acquire a homeland for all Jews worldwide, even though
>most were far from homeless, and many did not want another home. Not
>any land would do. World Zionists wanted a specific property that
>American Christians called "the Holy Land." But if these Zionists
>read "Democracy in America" or any of the journals of any of America's
>churches, which no doubt they did, they could not help but know that
>Jerusalem was not theirs to have. As self proclaimed Jews, they were,
>according to the Christian New Testament, the persecutors of Christ
>and most of his early followers, and the engineers of his crucifixion.
>America's traditional churches in the 19th Century would never stand
>for a Jewish occupation of Jesus' homeland.
>
>World Zionist leaders initiated a program to change America and its
>religious orientation. One of the tools used to accomplish this goal
>was an obscure and malleable Civil War veteran named Cyrus I.
>Schofield. A much larger tool was a venerable, world respected
>European book publisher The Oxford University Press.
>
>The scheme was to alter the Christian view of Zionism by creating and
>promoting a pro-Zionist subculture within Christianity. Scofield's
>role was to re-write the King James Version of the Bible by inserting
>Zionist-friendly notes in the margins, between verses and chapters,
>and on the bottoms of the pages. The Oxford University Press used
>Scofield, a pastor by then, as the Editor, probably because it needed
>such as man for a front. The revised bible was called the Scofield
>Reference Bible, and with limitless advertising and promotion, it
>became a best-selling "bible" in America and has remained so for 90
>years.
>
>The Scofield Reference Bible was not to be just another translation,
>subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a
>revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the King
>James Version. It was designed to create a subculture around a new
>worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet
>exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed,
>well-funded authors of World Zionism.
>
>Scofield's support came from a movement that took root around the turn
>of the century, supposedly motivated by disillusionment over what it
>considered the stagnation of the mainline American churches. Some of
>these "reformers" were later to serve on Scofield's Editorial
>Committee.
>
>Scofield imitated a chain of past heretics and rapturists, most of
>whose credibility fizzled over their faulty end times prophesies. His
>mentor was one John Nelson Darby from Scotland, who was associated
>with the Plymouth Brethren and who made no less than six evangelical
>trips to the US selling what is today called "Darbyism". It is from
>Darby that Scofield is thought to have learned his Christian Zionist
>theology, which he later planted in the footnotes of the Scofield
>Reference Bible. It is possible that Scofield's interest in Darbyism
>was shared by Oxford University Press, for Darby was known to Oxford
>University.
>
>The Oxford University Press owned "The Scofield Reference Bible" from
>the beginning, as indicated by its copyright, and Scofield stated he
>received handsome royalties from Oxford. Oxford's advertisers and
>promoters succeeded in making Scofield's bible, with its Christian
>Zionist footnotes, a standard for interpreting scripture in
>Judeo-Christian churches, seminaries, and Bible study groups. It has
>been published in at least four editions since its introduction in
>1908 and remains one of the largest selling Bibles ever.
>
>The Scofield Reference Bible and its several clones is all but
>worshiped in the ranks of celebrity Christians, beginning with the
>first media icon, evangelist Billy Graham. Of particular importance
>to the Zionist penetration of American Christian churches has been the
>fast growth of national bible study organizations, such as Bible Study
>Fellowship and Precept Ministries. These draw millions of students
>from not only evangelical fundamentalist churches, but also from
>Catholic and mainline Protestant churches and non-church contacts.
>These invariably teach forms of "dispensationalism," which draw their
>theory, to various degrees, from the notes in the Oxford Bible.
>
>Among more traditional churches that encourage, and in some cases
>recommend, the use of the Scofield Reference Bible is the huge
>Southern Baptist Convention of America, whose capture is World
>Zionism's crowning achievement.
>
>Scofield, whose work is largely believed to be the product of Darby
>and others, wisely chose not to change the text of the King James
>Edition. Instead, he added hundreds of easy to read footnotes at the
>bottom of about half of the pages, and as the Old English grammar of
>the KJE becomes increasingly difficult for progressive generations of
>readers, students become increasingly dependent on the modern language
>footnotes...
>
> Scofield's borrowed ideas were later popularized under
>the labels and definitions that have evolved into common usage
>today pre-millennialism," "dispensationalism," "Judeo-Christianity,"
>and most recently the highly political movement openly called
>"Christian Zionism."
>
>Thanks to the work of a few dedicated researchers, much of the
>questionable personal history of Cyrus I. Scofield is available. It
>reveals he was not a Bible scholar as one might expect, but a
>political animal with the charm and talent for self promotion of a
>Bill Clinton. Scofield's background reveals a criminal history, a
>deserted wife, a wrecked family, and a penchant for self serving lies.
>He was exactly the sort of man the World Zionists might hire to bend
>Christian thought, a controllable man and one capable of carrying the
>secret to his grave. (See The Incredible Scofield and His Book by
>Joseph M. Canfield).
>
>Other researchers have examined Scofield's eschatology and exposed his
>original work as apostate and heretic to traditional Christian views.
>Among these is a massive work by Stephen Sizer entitled Christian
>Zionism, Its History, Theology and Politics.
>(http://virginiawater.org.uk/christchurch)
>
>We Hold These Truths is grateful to these dedicated researchers. Our
>own examination of the Oxford Bible has gone in another direction,
>focusing not on what Scofield wrote, but on some of the many additions
>and deletions The Oxford University Press has continued to make to
>Scofield Reference Bible since his death in 1921. These alterations
>have further radicalized the Scofield Bible into a manual for the
>Christian worship of the State of Israel beyond what Schofield would
>have dreamed of. This un-Christian anti-Arab theology has permitted
>the theft of Palestine and 54 years of death and destruction against
>the Palestinians, with hardly a complaint from the Judeo-Christian
>mass media evangelists or most other American church leaders. We
>thank God for the exceptions.
>
>It is no exaggeration to say that the 1967 Oxford 4th Edition
>deifies--makes a God of--the State of Israel, a state that did not
>even exist when Scofield wrote the original footnotes in 1908. This
>writer believes that, had it not been for misguided anti-Arab race
>hatred promoted by Christian Zionist leaders in America, neither the
>Gulf War nor the Israeli war against the Palestinians would have
>occurred, and a million or more people who have perished would be
>alive today.
>
>What proof does WHTT have to incriminate World Zionism in a scheme to
>control Christianity? For proof we offer the words themselves that
>were planted in the 1967 Edition, 20 years after the State of Israel
>was created in 1947, and 46 years after Scofield's death. The words
>tell us that those who control the Oxford Press recreated a bible to
>misguide Christians and sell flaming Zionism in the churches of
>America.
>
>There is little reason to believe that Scofield knew or cared much
>about the Zionist movement, but at some point, he became involved in a
>close and secret relationship with Samuel Untermeyer, a New York
>lawyer whose firm still exists today and one of the wealthiest and
>most powerful World Zionists in America. Untermeyer controlled the
>unbreakable thread that connected him with Scofield. They shared a
>password and a common watering hole, and it appears that Untermeyer
>may have been the one who provided the money that Scofield himself
>lacked. Scofield's success as an international bible editor without
>portfolio and his lavish living in Europe could only have been
>accomplished with financial aid and international influence.
>
>This connection might have remained hidden, were it not for the work
>of Joseph M. Canfield, the author and researcher who discovered clues
>to the thread in Scofield family papers. But even had the threads
>connecting Scofield to Untermeyer and Zionism never been exposed, it
>would still be obvious that that connection was there. It is
>significant that Oxford, not Scofield, owned the book, and that after
>Scofield's death, Oxford accelerated changes to it. Since the death
>of its original author and namesake, The Scofield Reference Bible has
>gone through several editions. Massive pro-Zionist notes were added
>to the 1967 edition, and some of Scofield's most significant notes
>from the original editions were removed where they apparently failed
>to further Zionist aims fast enough. Yet this edition retains the
>title, "The New Scofield Reference Bible, Holy Bible, Editor C.I.
>Scofield." It's anti-Arab, Christian subculture theology has made an
>enormous contribution to war, turning Christians into participants in
>genocide against Arabs in the latter half of the 20th century.
>
>The most convincing evidence of the unseen Zionist hand that wrote the
>Scofield notes to the venerable King James Bible is the content of the
>notes themselves, for only Zionists could have written them. These
>notes are the subject of this paper.
>
>Oxford edited the former 1945 Edition of SRB in 1967, at the time of
>the Six Day War when Israel occupied Palestine. The new footnotes to
>the King James Bible presumptuously granted the rights to the
>Palestinians' land to the State of Israel and specifically denied the
>Arab Palestinians any such rights at all. One of the most brazen and
>outrageous of these NEWLY INSERTED footnotes states:
>
>"FOR A NATION TO COMMIT THE SIN OF ANTI-SEMITISM BRINGS INEVITABLE
>JUDGMENT." (page 19﷓20, footnote (3) to Genesis 12:3.) (our
>emphasis
>added)
>
>This statement sounds like something from Ariel Sharon, or the Chief
>Rabbi in Tel Aviv, or Theodore Herzl, the founder of Modern Zionism.
>But these exact words are found between the covers of the 1967 Edition
>of the Oxford Bible that is followed by millions of American
>churchgoers and students and is used by their leaders as a source for
>their preaching and teaching...
>
>All of this language, including the prophecy about the future being
>really bad for those who "persecute the Jews," reflects and furthers
>the goals of the Anti-Defamation League, which has a stated goal of
>creating an environment where opposing the State of Israel is
>considered "anti-Semitism," and "anti-Semitism" is a "hate crime"
>punishable by law. This dream has become a reality in the Christian
>Zionist churches of America. Only someone with these goals could have
>written this footnote...
>
>It is tempting to engage in academic arguments to show readers the
>lack of logic in Scofield's theology, which has led followers of
>Christ so far astray. It seems all too easy to refute the various
>Bible references given in support of Scofield's strange writings. But
>we will resist the temptation to do this, because others have already
>done it quite well, and more importantly because it leads us off our
>course.
>
>It is also inviting to dig into Scofield's sordid past as Canfield has
>done, revealing him to be a convicted felon and probable pathological
>liar, but we leave that to others, because our interest is not in
>Scofield's life, but in saving the lives of millions of innocent
>people who are threatened by the continuing Zionist push for perpetual
>war.
>
>Instead, we will examine the words on their face. The words in these
>1967 footnotes are Zionist propaganda that has been tacked onto the
>text of a Christian Bible. Most of them make no sense, except to
>support the Zionist State of Israel in its war against the
>Palestinians and any other wars it may enter into. In this purpose,
>Zionism has completely succeeded. American Judeo-Christians, more
>recently labeled "Christian Zionists," have remained mute during wars
>upon Israel's enemies in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and
>elsewhere. It is past time to stop the spilling of more blood, some
>of it Christian blood...
>
>And what is it that Scofield said that did not satisfy the Zionists
>who rewrote the Oxford 1967 Edition?
>
>The answer is an easy one. Most Arab and Islamic scholars consider
>Arabs in general and the Prophet Mohamed in particular to be direct
>descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's first son and older half-brother of
>Isaac, whose son Jacob was later to become known as "Israel." Many
>Arabs believe that through Ishmael they are co-heirs of to Abraham's
>promise, and they correctly believe that present day Israelis have no
>Biblical right to steal their land. Jewish Talmudic folklore also
>speaks of Ishmael, so the Zionists apparently felt they had to alter
>how Christians viewed the two half brothers in order to prevent
>Christians from siding with the Arabs over the land theft.
>
>The Zionists solved this dilemma by inserting a senseless footnote in
>the 1967 (Oxford) Scofield Reference Bible which, in effect,
>substitutes the word "Jews" for the words "The Israelitish people and
>Ishmaelitish people," as Scofield originally wrote it. The
>Israelitish and Ishmaelitish people lived 3000 years ago, but the
>Zionists want to claim the Arabs' part of the presumed birthright
>right now! Read it again; "all Jews are natural descendants of
>Abraham, but are not necessarily his spiritual posterity."
>
>And there is more of such boondogglery in the Oxford bible. On the
>same page 1137 we find yet another brand new Zionist-friendly note
>referring to the New Testament book of John 8:37.
>
>"(2) 8:44 THAT THIS SATANIC FATHERHOOD CANNOT BE LIMITED TO THE
>PHARISEES IS MADE CLEAR IN 1Jn3:8" (note SRB 1967 Edition, P1137 to
>John 8:44)
>
>Let us look at the verse Oxford is trying to soften, wherein Jesus is
>speaking directly to the Pharisees, who were the Jewish leaders of his
>day, and to no one else:
>
>"YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUST OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL
>DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH,
>BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKEST A LIE, HE SPEAKEST
>OF HIS OWN; FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT." John 8:44 King
>James Ed.)
>
>Those are plain words. No wonder the Zionists wanted to dilute what
>Jesus said. Not only did Oxford add a new footnote in 1967, but they
>inserted no less than four reference cues into the King James sacred
>text, directing readers to their specious, apostate footnotes. It
>seems the Zionists cannot deny what Jesus said about Pharisees, but
>they do not want to bear the burden of being "sons of Satan" all by
>themselves. Now here's the text of the verse to which Oxford refers
>in order to try to solve this problem:
>
>"HE THAT COMMITETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; FOR THE DEVIL SINNETH FROM THE
>BEGINNING. FOR THIS PURPOSE THE SON OF GOD WAS MANIFESTED, THAT HE
>MIGHT DESTROY THE WORK OF THE DEVIL." (1Jn3:8.King James Edition)
>
>Fine, but this verse, spoken by Jesus to His followers in a speech
>about avoiding sin, in no way supports Oxford's argument that Jesus
>was not talking directly to and about the Pharisee leaders when he
>called them "Sons of Satan" in John 8:44. It is a different book
>written at a different time to a different audience. This is typical
>Christian Zionist diversion.
>
>To find out to whom Jesus is speaking you must read the rest of John
>8, not something from another book. Furthermore, John 8:44 is only
>one of some 77 verses where Jesus confronted the Pharisees by name and
>in many cases addressed them as "satanic" and as "vipers." Oxford
>simply ignores most of these denunciations by Jesus, adding no notes
>at all, and the Christian Zionists go along without question.
>
>(The New Jewish Encyclopedia, edited by David Bridger, PH.D in
>association with Samual Wolk, Rabbi, J.S.D, copyright 1962, Published
>by Behrman House, inc.,1261 Broadway, New York 1, N.Y., Library of
>Congress Catalog Card Number: 62-17079, says on page 376:
>
> "The Pharisees are therefore regarded as those authorities who helped
>develop and preserve traditional Judaism as it is known today.")
>
>
>These are a few examples of Zionist perversions of scripture that have
>shaped the doctrine of America's most politically powerful religious
>subculture, the "Christian Zionists" as Ariel Sharon calls them, or
>the dispensationalists, as intellectual followers call themselves, or
>the Judeo-Christians as our politically-correct politicians describe
>themselves. Today's Mid-East wars are not caused by the
>predisposition of the peoples, who are no more warlike than any human
>tribes. Without the pandering to Jewish and Zionist interests that is
>carried out by this subculture--the most vocal being the celebrity
>Christian evangelists--there would be no such wars, for there is not
>enough support for war outside of organized Zionist Christianity.
>
>Reverend Stephen Sizer of Christ Church, England
>is perhaps the most dedicated new
>scholar writing about the Scofield Bible craze, popularly known as
>Christian Zionism. He has quipped, "Judging Christianity by looking
>at the American Evangelists is kind of like judging the British by
>watching Benny Hill."
>
>Reverend Sizer's remark brings to mind another Benny; his name is
>Benny Hinn, not a British comic, but an American evangelist spouting
>inflammatory hate-filled words aimed at Muslims everywhere. Hinn was
>speaking to the applause of an aroused crowd of thousands in the
>American Airline Center in Dallas when he shocked two Ft. Worth Star
>Telegram religious reporters covering the July 3d event by announcing,
>"We are on God's side," speaking of Palestine. He shouted, "This is
>not a war between Jews and Arabs. It is a war between God and the
>Devil." Lest there be any doubt about it, Hinn was talking about a
>blood war in which the Israelis are "God" and the Palestinians are
>"the Devil."
>
>Benny Hinn is one of hundreds of acknowledged Christian Zionists who
>have no problem spouting outright race hatred and who join in
>unconditional support for Israel without regard for which or how many
>of Israel's enemies are killed or crippled. His boldness stems from
>his knowledge that the vast majority of professing Christians from
>whom he seeks his lavish support-the Judeo-Christians, or Christian
>Zionists--do not shrink at his words, because they have been
>conditioned to accept them, just as Roman citizens learned to accept
>Christian persecution, even burning alive, under Nero. Several
>evangelists in attendance affirmed their agreement with Hinn "the
>line between Christians and Muslims is the difference between good and
>evil."
>
>An amazing number of professing Christians are in agreement with the
>fanatical likes of Hinn, including Gary Bauer, Ralph Reed, James
>Dobson and hundreds more. Yet Hinn's profit-seeking fanaticism is not
>as shocking as that of men like Richard Land of the Southern Baptist
>Convention who occupy the highest positions in the area of
>conservative religious thought. Land may have stopped short of
>branding all Muslims as devils, but he attacked their leader and
>Prophet and stated that, according to Baptist Bible interpretation,
>the Palestinian people have no legal rights to property in Palestine.
>(see note)...
>
>Christian Zionism may be the most bloodthirsty apostasy in the entire
>history of Christianity or any other religion. Shame on its leaders:
>they have already brought the blood of untold numbers innocent people
>down upon the spires and prayer benches of America's churches.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Christians are great for telling what some of the problems are, such
>>>as homosexual perversion, feminism etc.
>>
>>oh... so now you like them... this just shows you're in their
>>camp... you're a closet christian, my friend...
>>
>>> But to actually solve these
>>>problems one should look elsewhere.
>>
>>elsewhere than jesus? then they woudln't have much of a religion,
>>would they... that's like telling a chimp he can't have a banana.
>>
>>> Who do Christians hate the most,
>>>first Hitler and then the Muslims.
>>
>>because hitler was about hate,
>
>
>"Precisely because we are nationally minded, for that very reason we
>have respect for the national feelings of other peoples. And our
>national pride does not mean we scorn other peoples, it means that we
>respect and love our own people. It is precisely the Internationalists
>who prevent peoples from coming to understand one another."
>Adolf Hitler
>
>"Not hatred toward other peoples, but love toward the German nation."
>Hitler, Berlin October 24, 1933
>
>General Leon Degrelle was the leader of the Belgian contingent of the
>Waffen SS. He was in 75 hand-to-hand combat actions against the
>Marxists. This is what he wrote:
>"German racialism has been deliberately distorted. It never was
>"anti-other race"... National Socialist racialism was not against the
>other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and
>improving its race and wished that all other races did the same for
>themselves. It was demonstrated when the Waffen
>SS enlarged its ranks to include 60,000 Islamic SS troops.
>The Waffen SS respected their way of life, their customs and their
>religious beliefs. Each Islamic SS battalion had an iman; each company
>had a mullah. It was our common wish that their qualities found their
>highest expression... I was present when each of my Islamic comrades
>received a personal gift from Hitler during the new year. It was a
>pendant with a small Koran. He was honouring them with what was the
>most important aspect of their lives and their history."
>
>
>>and christians like to think
>>they're about love, so they eliminate the outward signs that will
>>show them up, but as you said yourself, they're full of hatred
>>against gays and feminists and liberals and everything else...
>>it's all a charade that they're about love... a lie...
>>
>>> These are the two who actually
>>>solved the problems that Christians are famous for speaking against.
>>
>>see, you're all one happy family...
>>
>>>Maybe the Muslims go a little overboard but they are the opposite of
>>>liberalism. There is no way that "Brokeback Mountain" would be shown
>>>in a Muslim country.
>>
>>or a mormon one?

--

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