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Author: BassosBassos Date: Aug 26, 2008 12:42
"Patrick Schaaf" wrote in message
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> "Bassos" writes:
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>>>>Ego has a job ?
>>>>I thought it was just the sense of continuity in experiences.
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>>> Isn't it rather the expression of the fear of discontinuity,
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>>Nah, that is just one ways of expressing friction.
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> What does that 'that' refer to? Ego? What you wrote? What I wrote?
fear.
>>> i.e. one kind of reflection of said sense of continuity?
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>>was it a choice, or was the choice already made ?
>
> The sky is gray. The air is fresh.
quite.
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Author: marikamarika Date: Sep 12, 2008 18:24
"Bassos" wrote in message
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> Nah, that is just one ways of expressing friction.
apparently you use it, and based on your own experiences, it makes one
unpleasant, quarrelsome, oppositional and all of those for no good
reason at all.
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>> i.e. one kind of reflection of said sense of continuity?
>
> was it a choice, or was the choice already made ?
> My sister has a feeling that every time she insults the aunt, she is gonna
> give all her merck stock to her landlord, ..... and she says she really
> doesn't care, either way. in fact that is probably...
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Author: marikamarika Date: Sep 13, 2008 08:20
"Bassos" wrote in message
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> I primarily mean the money flow of *everyone*
> What would people do if they knew how everyone spend their money ?
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> Big corporations ?
> Politician cash flows ?
so much time and effort is spent on tracking this and creating predictive
models about it
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> Could there be lobby, if all is known ?
> Would there be greasing any wheels if everybody knew who greesed who ?
every time you buy something not using cash, you voluntarily give this
information
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> The fear thing is about corporations ruling this information.
you are right about that.
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Author: BassosBassos Date: Sep 13, 2008 09:37
"marika" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bassos" wrote in message
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>> I primarily mean the money flow of *everyone*
>> What would people do if they knew how everyone spend their money ?
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>> Big corporations ?
>> Politician cash flows ?
>
> so much time and effort is spent on tracking this and creating predictive
> models about it
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Author: BassosBassos Date: Sep 15, 2008 13:12
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>>> It's not that simple. Ego is an amplified organic survival mechanism.
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>> do you really believe so?
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> It's not simply a "belief". It's a considered judgment.
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> Please read "How the Mind Works", by Dr. Steven Pinker, Psychology Dept.
> Harvard University, as an introduction to how this judgment arose.
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Author: TomTom Date: Sep 15, 2008 15:52
"Bassos" wrote in message
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>>>> It's not that simple. Ego is an amplified organic survival mechanism.
>>>
>>> do you really believe so?
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>> It's not simply a "belief". It's a considered judgment.
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>> Please read "How the Mind Works", by Dr. Steven Pinker, Psychology Dept.
>> Harvard University, as an introduction to how this judgment arose. ...
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Author: marikamarika Date: Sep 15, 2008 18:37
"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It's not simply a "belief". It's a considered judgment.
>
> Please read "How the Mind Works", by Dr. Steven Pinker, Psychology Dept.
> Harvard University, as an introduction to how this judgment arose.
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>> is the point then that people who are say mentally ill enough to be
>> locked up, are their egos broken, or would they be even more successful
>> if say there were no societal controls that require their lock up
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> "Mentally ill" covers a wide variety of cognitive, perceptual, emotional,
> and behavioral problems. It's incredibly simplistic to describe all
> people with mental illnesses as having "broken egos".
I didn't say that they all have broken egos, I asked if they did.
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Author: marikamarika Date: Sep 15, 2008 18:48
"Bassos" wrote in message
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> Ofcourse you are aware that 'up to date' neuroscience does not claim to be
> able to map anything.
> Yes, the theories are interesting.
> But no, there is no actual convincing evidence for a singular theory.
> You could know this by keeping up to date.
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> Hell, The best researched bit of cortex is the Ocipital lobe, you know,
> vision.
> Up to today they are still looking for 'pictures' in the brain, instead of
> change.
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> Wait, could the brain be an organ sensitive to change ?
> Oh wait, it is....
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> Now know that nobody knows how the mind works, and any book claiming to
> know by it's title is suspect.
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Author: TomTom Date: Sep 15, 2008 20:21
"marika" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> It's not simply a "belief". It's a considered judgment.
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>> Please read "How the Mind Works", by Dr. Steven Pinker, Psychology Dept.
>> Harvard University, as an introduction to how this judgment arose.
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Date: Sep 16, 2008 06:55
"Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
>"marika" gmail.com> wrote in message
>> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> It's not simply a "belief". It's a considered judgment.
>> Maybe they have more efficient egos and we just don't get it and lock them
>> up because it interferes with our concept of what egos should be doing.
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>All of them? Or only some of them? As I say, "mental illness" covers a
>wide variety of problems. It's incredibly simplistic to try to lump all of
>them together. Is there any one particular person who you would like to
>cite as an example of how a "more efficient ego" gets one locked up as
>mentally ill?
Efficiency might be defined somewhat
as the path of least resistance.
Somebody who speaks his or her mind,
does as impressed to do, and gets locked up,
might be following such a path.
It isn't necessarily bad.
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